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05-02-13, 07:22 AM
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Smartest lizard?
What's your opinion on the smartest group/species of lizard? I'm partially asking because I'm really curious, and partly because I'm in the market for a new lizard and I want something smart and interactive. Now, it seems to me like blue tongued skinks and monitors are some of the smartest lizards. And frankly I'm not sure if I'm ready for a monitor, although I know for a fact that I'm NOT ready for a Savannah. Maybe an Ackie or something. So what do you all think about the intelligence/interactivity of BTS or monitors, OR any other lizard species?
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05-02-13, 08:07 AM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
Iguanas seem pretty smart. Not saying to get one just putting it out there.
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05-02-13, 08:26 AM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
BTS are pretty lazy and slow in general.
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05-02-13, 08:47 AM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
Iguanas are smart but fall into the same category as monitors with the size of the cage, humidity, blah blah. and they need UVB too...
Bearded dragons and tegus....but again with the tegus on size and humidity and what not.
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05-02-13, 11:40 AM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
Varanids - Reptilian primates.
If there is a smarter lizard on earth, someone share, I'd like to know.
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05-02-13, 11:51 AM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
This ones the smartest, he can play the guitar and everything 
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05-02-13, 06:35 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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this ones the smartest, he can play the guitar and everything
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05-02-13, 06:48 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Varanids - Reptilian primates.
If there is a smarter lizard on earth, someone share, I'd like to know.
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I was watching the documentary "Lizard Kings" and they referenced that monitors are the smartest reptile in existence to our knowledge. In the studies and tests they ran they tracked how it (bosc monitor) could actually count to (5 or 8 - i forget lol) They are a pleasure to keep.
Edit: The documentary even tracked monitors hunting by tracking their prey, and anticipating their prey's route; jumping off of it to cut off their future meal. Just like a canine or feline would do.
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05-02-13, 06:55 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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I was watching the documentary "Lizard Kings" and they referenced that monitors are the smartest reptile in existence to our knowledge. In the studies and tests they ran they tracked how it (bosc monitor) could actually count to (5 or 8 - i forget lol) They are a pleasure to keep.
Edit: The documentary even tracked monitors hunting by tracking their prey, and anticipating their prey's route; jumping off of it to cut off their future meal. Just like a canine or feline would do.
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Yes, but monitors can EAT dogs and cats, so therefore monitors are both cooler, and smarter. 
Just to clarify, my list above was not in any way saying they share the same levels of knowledge. Beardies aren't smart on iguana or monitor level, but still, they will interact with you more than a leopard gecko will...
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05-02-13, 07:54 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
This guy ALMOST beat Kirk....I'd say smartest 
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05-02-13, 08:00 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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Originally Posted by franks
I was watching the documentary "Lizard Kings" and they referenced that monitors are the smartest reptile in existence to our knowledge. In the studies and tests they ran they tracked how it (bosc monitor) could actually count to (5 or 8 - i forget lol) They are a pleasure to keep.
Edit: The documentary even tracked monitors hunting by tracking their prey, and anticipating their prey's route; jumping off of it to cut off their future meal. Just like a canine or feline would do.
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Own the dvd 
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05-02-13, 08:17 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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Of course you do wayne. I was not trying to enlighten you, just back up your comment. You probably have more "monitor footage" from little-foot and cera then all the raw footage needed for that documentary lol.
Random question for you btw: What are your monitor's reactions when you put something new into their enclosure?
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05-02-13, 11:02 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
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Random question for you btw: What are your monitor's reactions when you put something new into their enclosure?
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My favourite thing to do is pour in about 10 gallons of fresh dirt, spread it around and slap down a few clumps of grassy sod.
In about 10 minutes after I close the door, they are out, Digging, sniffing, exploring.
I sat an empty night crawler cup in there one night, quite quickly, Cera was shoving it around trying to figure out what it was.
Cera also tore the hygrometer down off the wall and broke it.
Attacks on the camera are still common too.
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05-03-13, 02:02 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
I would say that monitors are the smartest lizards, with tegus being a close second. If we are broadening the question to reptiles in general, crocodilians are a lot more intelligent than people give them credit for. They are on par with monitors and tegus if you ask me, though it is harder to observe and less research has been done.
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05-03-13, 08:54 PM
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Re: Smartest lizard?
i agree with pirarucu; i've seen target trained/vocal commanded american alligators, and when you think about their evolutionary path (so close to birds), i think there has to be something there, and us mammals are just too dumb to see it
Crocodilians have parental care, communication, and tons of behaviors that we've barely begun to research....
However, i don't think they make very good pets
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