color morphs

BryanB · 08-28-12, 07:55 PM

How do you know what morph a snake is. I was talking to a person at my local pet shop "non employee" and said Inka my long tail boa looks to be an anery but i don't even know what that means. Oh and dose it really madder i like him either way.

Wildside · 08-28-12, 07:56 PM

Longtails do tend to look anery, but they are not. Your longtail looks very pure and gets better with every pic you post.

BryanB · 08-28-12, 08:20 PM

Thank you I really want to get him outside with my real camara so I can catch some of his real colors

Wildside · 08-28-12, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanB

Thank you I really want to get him outside with my real camara so I can catch some of his real colors

MMMM The iridescence

I am in love with that snake. Should you ever decide you don't want him anymore let me know.

Wildside · 08-28-12, 08:25 PM

I keep forgetting to mention that anery is the absence of yellow or red pigment

Jlassiter · 08-28-12, 08:34 PM

Anerythristic is the absence of erythrin which is red pigment.
Axanthic is the absence of xanthin which is yellow pigment.
Amelanistic Is the absence of melanin which is black pigment.

The prefix a or an means total lack of the mutated pigment.
The prefix hypo means reduced as with hypoerythristic, hypoxanthic and hypomelanistic.
The prefix hyper means exaggerated as with hypererythristic, hyperxanthic and hypermelanistic.

But your longicauda looks to be a normal.....

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 08:35 PM

I do believe long tails are naturally anery. And it looks to possibly be hypermelanistic.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Jlassiter · 08-28-12, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by snake man12

I do believe long tails are naturally anery. And it looks to possibly be hypermelanistic.

Correct me if I am wrong.

That is their normal look compared to the ones I've seen....
Maybe their normal look is hypermelanistic compared to bcc or bci

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

That is there normal look compared to the ones I've seen....
Maybe their normal look is hypermelanistic compared to bcc or bci

That is what I was trying to get at.

Jlassiter · 08-28-12, 08:37 PM

Some aneries are axanthic as well but axanthics aren't always aneries.
The animal in it's normal form has to normally have the pigment to have it mutated.

Like a california king with never any red can't be anery.......or a zonata cannot be axanthic....

Wildside · 08-28-12, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

Some aneries are axanthic as well but axanthics aren't always aneries.
The animal in it's normal form has to normally have the pigment to have it mutated.

Like a california king with never any red can't be anery.......or a zonata cannot be axanthic....

This is the very best explanation you will get for why your Long-tail looks anery. When it comes to Boas we have Type 1 and Type 2 anery. 1 lacks the red pigment, 2 lacks the yellow. If both were absent then the boa would be axanthic. (I think lol)

Jlassiter · 08-28-12, 09:00 PM

If both are absent it is anery....
If it was axanthic it could still have red.....but lack yellow.

But I am not a boa person....
I'm just explaining what each pigment mutation is.

Wildside · 08-29-12, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

If both are absent it is anery....
If it was axanthic it could still have red.....but lack yellow.

But I am not a boa person....
I'm just explaining what each pigment mutation is.

I gotcha. The info I got could've been wrong or old. You'd think the morph explanations would be the same across the board?

Jlassiter · 08-29-12, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildside

I gotcha. The info I got could've been wrong or old. You'd think the morph explanations would be the same across the board?

LOL...I've argued this with alot of the boa, python, corn, gecko and other breeders before.

The definitions the Lampropeltis guys use are closer to the true definitions of the pigment mutations. And that is only because the three pigments (black, yellow and red) are clearly visible on Lampropeltis. In nice little bands....LOL

I don't think the terms are used the same across the board...

Then there's pattern mutations we "name" along with mulitple homozygotes and T+ mutations.

The most commonly misused term is Hypomelanistic......

They are merely neat, little names we as humans try to classify them under.
No one really knows exactly what is going on with their genetics. We are just trying to make it easier to identify or so everyone knows what is being discussed when mentioned.

Wildside · 08-29-12, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

LOL...I've argued this with alot of the boa, python, corn, gecko and other breeders before.

The definitions the Lampropeltis guys use are closer to the true definitions of the pigment mutations. And that is only because the three pigments (black, yellow and red) are clearly visible on Lampropeltis. In nice little bands....LOL

I don't think the terms are used the same across the board...

Then there's pattern mutations we "name" along with mulitple homozygotes and T+ mutations.

The most commonly misused term is Hypomelanistic......

They are merely neat, little names we as humans try to classify them under.
No one really knows exactly what is going on with their genetics. We are just trying to make it easier to identify or so everyone knows what is being discussed when mentioned.

What exactly is the definition of hypo? I think they should be the same. Making up names can be reserved for pattern morphs.