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Old 06-27-12, 08:23 AM   #1
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I've been contemplating getting another snake...not sure yet. If I do, it would probably be one of these two snakes: Corn Snake, or possibly a Ball Python.

Ball Pythons have always been..."aesthetically pleasing" to me, I always thought of them as being cute...love the look of them...but I've heard Corns (which are also beautiful) make better pets because they are less picky, eat less at 'mealtimes', take up less space, don't require such precise humidity levels, etc...

I think I know most of the pros/cons of BP's, what are the pros/cons of Cornsnakes?

Any more info on these two you can give me?
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Old 06-27-12, 08:44 AM   #2
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

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Hi

I've been contemplating getting another snake...not sure yet. If I do, it would probably be one of these two snakes: Corn Snake, or possibly a Ball Python.
Really? Those are the only two choices you're offering yourself? Don't get me wrong, they're both fine snakes to keep...but there's plenty of other species that are relatively small, and interesting: kingsnakes, sand boas, rosy boas, African house snakes, western hognose....

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I think I know most of the pros/cons of BP's, what are the pros/cons of Cornsnakes?

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Ball Pythons have always been..."aesthetically pleasing" to me, I always thought of them as being cute...love the look of them...but I've heard Corns (which are also beautiful) make better pets because they are less picky, eat less at 'mealtimes', take up less space, don't require such precise humidity levels, etc...
You more or less answered your question. In general, the average adult corn won't take up quite as much space as an adult BP.

On one hand, you have a stout, brown/tan-colored snake that spends 90% of its time hiding, is very docile, does come in a variety of morphs, and is notorious for going off feed unexpectedly (although a lot of times, this can be attributed to husbandry errors).

On the other hand, you have a slender-bodied, orange/reddish snake that is generally more active, also fairly docile, but more apt to explore and crawl all over you than sit placidly in a lump in your lap. Cornsnakes also come a variety of color/pattern morphs, and you are correct, a healthy CB specimen usually has a more routine & stronger feeding response than a BP.

All depends on exactly what you want in a snake...
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My personal preference is corn snakes. I find their natural phenotype (red marking on an orange background, with a checkered belly) to be more appealing than a ball python, and even their color morphs are more affordable than most BP morphs, if you're into that. But I'm more of a colubrid guy anyway.
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

Thanks for the info.

As for what you said about "only two choices I'm offering myself"...yes. I have it narrowed to those two snakes. I just have different taste, I don't want the same snakes that you want (kingsnake, sand boa, African house snake or western hognose). They just don't appeal to me in the way Corns or BP's do, and I already have a rosy boa.

I'm just trying to decide between these two. Is that wrong?
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As for what you said about "only two choices I'm offering myself"...yes. I have it narrowed to those two snakes. I just have different taste, I don't want the same snakes that you want (kingsnake, sand boa, African house snake or western hognose). They just don't appeal to me in the way Corns or BP's do, and I already have a rosy boa.

I'm just trying to decide between these two. Is that wrong?
No, not wrong at all.

I was just curious if you had really narrowed it down from a larger range, or were just automatically hopping to the two most commonly kept snakes on the market and were perhaps unaware of other choices.

I often find the latter scenario to be quite common. People tend to think BPs and cornsnakes are the only snakes one can keep as pets because thats all they see in a petstore. I'm glad you've taken the time to at least consider other options.
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

yup you've pretty much got it down pat!! Corns take less room and have easier husbandry than BP's, that being said, if you have the room and set up a proper viv before bringing a BP home, then they are fairly easy too!!

It was a slight adjustment for me to bring my first BP home, and because I didn't have everything just right, he did get an RI, but once we cleared him up everything has been fine and I now have 2 more BP's and am having no troubles at all!!

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What a bout Dumerils boa. They do get a little bigger than bp's but they are very docile and tend to be more active than bp's. In my experience these boas are very strong feeders. And they don't need the same humidity requirements as bp's. I've used this photo before but this is my adult male Dumerils boa







In this pic he is about 4 feet long I only expect him to get around 5
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

Both are great and fairly basic in terms of husbandry. I've got both. I don't think there are really any cons to owning a Corn if you're into this type of Colubrid. The Corn is arguably the easiest snake to care for. They stay at a manageable size, don't need precise temps or humidity levels, quite active, friendly if handled regularly, excellent eaters - mine NEVER misses a meal. Although like most Colubrids they will defecate more than your average Boid. There's a wee bit more maintenance involved with a Corn. Hope that helps
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

That Dumeril's Boa is beautiful!

However, I live in an apartment and will have to re-organize just to fit a tank for a BP or Corn, don't think I have room for anything bigger. (Don't worry, my landlord thought my reptiles were awesome, lol)
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Although like most Colubrids they will defecate more than your average Boid.
Has yours ever pooped on you? lol. I bet that smells nice...

As long as they don't poop as often as lizards that's fine with me. My Crested Gecko seems to enjoy saving it up just for me. He even aimed it out the cage door at me the other day...he can shoot a good distance!

and his poop is tiny and has no smell...that would be...er...'fun' if a snake did that... :S
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Has yours ever pooped on you? lol. I bet that smells nice...

As long as they don't poop as often as lizards that's fine with me. My Crested Gecko seems to enjoy saving it up just for me. He even aimed it out the cage door at me the other day...he can shoot a good distance!

and his poop is tiny and has no smell...that would be...er...'fun' if a snake did that... :S
I'm thankful that I haven't (yet) been pooped on or musked by any my snakes LOL.
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

A corn snake is easier to take care of for reasons you've already mentioned. Still, it's not difficult to keep a ball python either, so I wouldn't let that be the deciding factor.

One thing to think about is that corn snakes are more active than ball pythons - not sure if that matters to you...
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That Dumeril's Boa is beautiful!

However, I live in an apartment and will have to re-organize just to fit a tank for a BP or Corn, don't think I have room for anything bigger. (Don't worry, my landlord thought my reptiles were awesome, lol)
dont use a big tank for a corn, or a royal, use tubs, they take up so much less room...

i was going to suggest a RTB, but not sure if your wanting somthing that could get pretty big (some do 8ft or so)
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A Dumerils could live in a 4 by 2 viv all of it's life. And thank you he is extremely colorful after shed
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dont use a big tank for a corn, or a royal, use tubs, they take up so much less room...

i was going to suggest a RTB, but not sure if your wanting somthing that could get pretty big (some do 8ft or so)
how so? what size tubs do you use? (for each snake?)...interested
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Re: Contemplating another...Corn or BP?

A Corn is a much better snake to have than a Royal. They are active and curious, much more colorful and have a wider variety of color/pattern morphs than Royals, they make much better eaters as a general rule than Royals, they dont have the humidity issues that Royals sometimes have and they are very hardy. I see no deficiencies with Corns compared to Royals either, and in addition to all that, they require much less housing space than Royals do. Both are tame so thats not an issue. Overall they are much more interesting to keep as well.
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