I got a new snake today

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 05-08-11, 10:17 PM

I got a new snake today! (not really because of Sick lol)

This is the new baby, a Northern Copperhead

This is my Southern Copperhead; the one SickVenom said i should diss-own.

Here they are together (the smaller one is the NC)

Again if you dont agree with them, keep the comments to yourselves. Although i doubt its an issue anymore. I will take some more pictures so you can see there little Sulfur yellow tails. They are awesome snakes, there face's are unlike anything ive ever seen.

NennaMeerkat · 05-08-11, 10:19 PM

OMG Cute little buggers...probably ready to take someone down too LOL

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 05-08-11, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NennaMeerkat

OMG Cute little buggers...probably ready to take someone down too LOL

The Northern yea hes a mess, he thinks hes a rattlesnake if you get near his enclosure sometimes he will have at it shaking his little tail lol. But my Southern like i said before shows absolutely no aggression, i think he just knows hes the man and nobody is going to bother him. lol

stephanbakir · 05-08-11, 10:36 PM

Great lookin snakes
Although i don't advise live feeding, its great to watch the babies catch their prey in the wild, they wiggle their tail and the food comes right to them.
Quick question, are they being kept together?

infernalis · 05-08-11, 10:43 PM

I have no problem with Hots as captive specimens.. Just stay safe.

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 05-08-11, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Great lookin snakes
Although i don't advise live feeding, its great to watch the babies catch their prey in the wild, they wiggle their tail and the food comes right to them.
Quick question, are they being kept together?

Yea i dont live feed either, and currently they are being kept together. Copperheads do really well in multiple snake enclosures, but if left unfed for to long they can resort to cannibalism. Not an issue on my end though, for there extremely well fed. Its not a permanent housing though.

Max713 · 05-08-11, 11:04 PM

Gorgeous little snakes!
My understanding is the copperhead bite is the least deadly of all american hots?

NennaMeerkat · 05-08-11, 11:06 PM

My hoggie wiggles her tail when she gets all hissy and has a fit. Its funny to see. I can just imagine these little hots doing the same. Difference is I would take them much more seriously LOL

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 05-08-11, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Max713

Gorgeous little snakes!
My understanding is the copperhead bite is the least deadly of all american hots?

Thanks!

Actually on the LD50 scale measured subcutaneous, the Southern Copperheads venom is actually more potent then the Cottonmouth/Water Moccasin. (just barely)

It reads like this:

Species | LD-50 (mg/kg)
West. Diamondback Rattlesnake| 18.5
Southern Copperhead | 25.6
Cotton Mouth/ Water Moccasin | 25.8

Copperheads cant at one time store enough venom to be lethal to a healthy adult. Anaphalectic shock due to severe allergic reaction to the venom is what can result in death if you dont seek medical attention immediately after a bite. Hope all this info was something you cared to read lol.

stephanbakir · 05-08-11, 11:25 PM

Its not always fighting for food and cannibalism that will cause snakes to fight.

A few years ago I had a friend who had 2 ball pythons in the same enclosure, and they would ALWAYS fight for the best hotspot in the terrarium. I'm not sure if they are immune to their own venom, but im pretty sure that fangs leave scars of some kind and with snakes that look like gems I'd prefer keeping them shiny and scar free.

infernalis · 05-08-11, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KD35WIN.AS.ONE

Hope all this info was something you cared to read lol.

It's necessary info, one MUST read.

Ch^4 · 05-08-11, 11:33 PM

Congrats, what a great looking snake! I wish I had the "kahoonas" to own a hot...pictures will suffice

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 05-08-11, 11:47 PM

@ Stephanbakir I never really thought of that, it makes sense though. Also they are immune to there own venom.

And thanks everyone for the complements on them.

Max713 · 05-08-11, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KD35WIN.AS.ONE

Thanks!

Actually on the LD50 scale measured subcutaneous, the Southern Copperheads venom is actually more potent then the Cottonmouth/Water Moccasin. (just barely)

It reads like this:

Species | LD-50 (mg/kg)
West. Diamondback Rattlesnake| 18.5
Southern Copperhead | 25.6
Cotton Mouth/ Water Moccasin | 25.8

Copperheads cant at one time store enough venom to be lethal to a healthy adult. Anaphalectic shock due to severe allergic reaction to the venom is what can result in death if you dont seek medical attention immediately after a bite. Hope all this info was something you cared to read lol.

Of course! The more info the better! I mean common, you are on a snake forum...

Interesting, I was at least close! I'd also heard that a Copperhead bite alone can't kill you without some sort of allergic reaction, but I wasn't sure and was hoping you would tell me. Where does the Mojave fit into that scale? I know its the deadliest of all rattlers.
I plan on owning a nice big NW Rattler eventually, I catch anywhere from 10 to 30 every spring at my favorite den. One of these years I'll keep one, still trying to get info about how a wild caught rattler will do in captivity though... Can you recommend a good hot forum? For some reason Venomland keeps rejecting my registration...

stephanbakir · 05-08-11, 11:52 PM

Quick question regarding diamondback venom, when i was about 15 i got bitten on the shoulder (i was digging around chasing lizards) and it took me about 45 minutes to get to the hospital and get anti-venom all i got from the bite in 45 minutes was swelling and it went down within 2 hours of the bite. Was this a normal reaction or was there defective venom or low dose of venom?