Why Rocky is loose in the car

RTB0608 · 09-03-08, 11:09 AM

Rocky is loose in the car because he absolutly LOVES heat and he only goes up on the dashboard. i have a handle installed on the passenger seat interior that he wraps his tail around so if he shoud fall he wont get hurt. He never leaves the dash its his favorite spot. Once he feels that heat he wont leave. Rocky i have had since birth and he has nothing toward humans you can do anything to him and he lets you do what you want but of course i know what to not let anyone do and hes always under watch although he is incredibly tame. Hope that answers your questions. more pictures to come

**Aaron_S** · 09-03-08, 10:21 PM

It's a bad idea. Here's a few reasons,
1. You can't regulate the temperature very well of that heat, meaning he could get burned one day.
2. Even though he's got a tail wrapped around a handle it doesn't stop his body from swinging around,possibly slamming into something and hurting himself.
3. Maybe someone sees him in the window and looks away from their car and they end up causing an accident. Quite possible. You maybe end up in an accident and cause a lot of grief for yourself. Either he may die or the police come to the scene and notice you've got a 'dangerous' animal on your dashboard. Subjecting the municipality that you live in to put up bans on boas and pythons just because you got into an accident, and possibly frightened the other driver.

johnrandle · 09-04-08, 05:50 AM

yeah im with aaron on this one, driving around with a snake loose in the car is pretty stupid. all animals shold be transported in a styrofoam cooler or something with some shirts or shavings at least to lay on. i know people who have had snakes die because they took them out when it was too cold out... or had them crawl into the dash board vents because it was so small..
whats the humidity levels like in your car? LOL

totheend · 09-04-08, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It's a bad idea. Here's a few reasons,
1. You can't regulate the temperature very well of that heat, meaning he could get burned one day.
2. Even though he's got a tail wrapped around a handle it doesn't stop his body from swinging around,possibly slamming into something and hurting himself.
3. Maybe someone sees him in the window and looks away from their car and they end up causing an accident. Quite possible. You maybe end up in an accident and cause a lot of grief for yourself. Either he may die or the police come to the scene and notice you've got a 'dangerous' animal on your dashboard. Subjecting the municipality that you live in to put up bans on boas and pythons just because you got into an accident, and possibly frightened the other driver.

Very well said. And that is just 3 reasons why, there are so many more. Including, him dying from being too hot, you getting into an accident because snakes are unpredicatable and he could wrap around your steering wheel, etc....the list goes on and on. I am sure that you get the idea.

gonesnakee · 09-05-08, 12:31 PM

I'm not even a fan of loose dogs in the car myself. My various friends have theirs leashed to the back seats or in kennels when travelling with theirs. 2 main rules when it comes to animals & children in any situation. Controlled & Contained. A loose animal in a vehicle is neither, Mark

totheend · 09-05-08, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gonesnakee

I'm not even a fan of loose dogs in the car myself. My various friends have theirs leashed to the back seats or in kennels when travelling with theirs. 2 main rules when it comes to animals & children in any situation. Controlled & Contained. A loose animal in a vehicle is neither, Mark

I hear ya on that! I had my JRT with me in the truck one day, leashed to the seat belt beside me and we drove up to a ride program. I was going camping and really didn't know my way so the officers were nice enough to give me directions. As I pulled away my dog tried to get to the window on my side to see the police as we drove off. Her back end got stuck in the steering wheel and made it difficult for me to steer. So, the truck was jerking all over the road and her butt was on the horn.....so the horn was going the whole time......not a pretty sight

. Guess the leash wan't tight enough. Ever since then I make sure she is secure and can't get near me. Animals loose in a vehicle is such a bad idea.

gonesnakee · 09-06-08, 01:45 AM

I know of at least a couple incidents that friends had as a direct result of a dog getting into the "pedals". The one just demoed the truck & the driver but hey the puppy was just fine LOL My friend ended up with multiple fractures in various places & a couple real good shiners due to her "nose job" I called her Rhonda Racoon for a long time after that. We had a big party when she got out of the Hospital & she still had black eyes. Anyway babble babble LOL Controlled & Contained

Mark

Durtis · 09-06-08, 01:54 PM

im sorry but ive argued with some other people from another site about this
someone was probably watching him.. i take my redtail lenox out with me all the time and he is loose in the car on the dash or around my neck.theres nothing wrong with a snake being lose in the car as long as someone is watching him.
do you ever take your snake outside.your taking just as much of a risk doing that..

Durtis · 09-06-08, 01:57 PM

ohh and dogs are much different in a vehical theyre bigger and want to meet everyone

gonesnakee · 09-06-08, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Durtis

im sorry but ive argued with some other people from another site about this
someone was probably watching him.. i take my redtail lenox out with me all the time and he is loose in the car on the dash or around my neck.theres nothing wrong with a snake being lose in the car as long as someone is watching him.
do you ever take your snake outside.your taking just as much of a risk doing that..

Its funny how those with bad practices themselves support others with the smae bad practices. Snakes around the neck is a very stupid practice indeed. If one never allows snakes around ones neck they will never be constricted around their neck. I personally NEVER place ANY snake around my neck EVER. I'm not just some Joe Blow wannabe snake tough guy like those of you that think walking around like this in public or worse yet driving like that is appropriate. I'm a snake breeder. I work with 100s of snakes for hours & hours EVERY day for the last decade. Ever had a snake constrict you? I have & it happens in a split second & they are far more powerfull than you give them credit for. The nicest, calmest snake thats been around for years & never struck blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda can still do it & some day WILL do it. When its out of its enviroment a snake can be set off really easy whether some folks out there can grasp that or not. Always trsut a snake to be a snake. If you don't know what that means its means DON"T trust the snake & be prepared for it to do anything. I have seen lots of crap go down over the years & every single time it was the owners fault for following poor practices. Having someone "watch" as the snake chokes you out while driving does not make it safe LMAO. As for outside no I do not take my snakes outside. There is no reason for it. I don't need to drive around with a snake around my neck or go to the mall with one or to a concert or event etc. etc. etc. to be cool. There is ZERO benefit to the snake by doing so, unless you think stress is somehow benefiting your snake? Most folks that feel the need to pack their snakes around everywhere do so for attention & status for themselves. It is not a thing a responsible snake owner does. A responsible snake owner ALWAYS has control over the snake & the snake is always contained to whatever area that has been predetermined to be a safe appropriate atmosphere. Walking around whereever you go with one is not that. I take snakes out to prearranged venues for displays & demos. I do demos for Humane Societies etc. & am actively involved in the Provinicial society where I live. I try my best to promote proper husbandry, handling & safety. Sorry to vent on you guys but what you are suggesting goes against everything that I try to teach folks in reguards to being resposible herpers. Keeping snakes is cool, but having to walk or drive around with one for attention is not. My vent for the day anyway. Mark

**Aaron_S** · 09-06-08, 10:38 PM

I completely agree with Mark's wall of text.

Durtis · 09-07-08, 09:36 AM

putting a snake around your neck is not a tough guy snake trainer thing its called holding your snake and keeping him worm. your neck is one of the wormest places on your body

**Aaron_S** · 09-07-08, 10:49 AM

That is why a snake is likely to wrap itself around your neck and apply pressure. It's not a safe practice. You shouldn't need to keep your snake warm while it is out because it should only be out for brief periods. If you happen to do educational shows and talks, again it isn't needed.

gonesnakee · 09-07-08, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Durtis

putting a snake around your neck is not a tough guy snake trainer thing its called holding your snake and keeping him worm. your neck is one of the wormest places on your body

It is one of the absolute worst practices to get into. I hold plenty of snakes every day & do not have to place any of them around my neck ever. I have had Carpet Pythons constrict my arms on quite a few different occassions where if they were around my neck I would have been choked out. I'm talking arm turning all purple, "pins & needles" the whole 9. If a 5 ft (or larger) Boid constricts you for real it takes a LOT to get it off of you. I'm 6'2" 230 BTW, not a small guy. If its around your neck & you are by yourself it can be all over literally or even just blacking out & falling & hitting your head is not a good thing. As for the warmth comments, well guess what if you DO NOT take your snake out into inappropriate weather it will not have to cuddle you for warmth

& thats why they do "cuddle" not because they love us or anything

Anyhow one of the best pieces of advice I can ever give anyone is to NOT place a snake around ones neck ever. Bad practices lead to preventable accidents, Mark
P.S. & we all know how the media loves spreading bad press about snake keepers, lets do our best not to give them any fuel to do so with.

**Aaron_S** · 09-07-08, 02:08 PM

Mark, it seems our words are falling on deaf ears. If you check the other recent posts of Durtis you'll notice that he believes he's correct, regardless of facts.