price range...

peterm15 · 01-14-05, 05:55 PM

id just like to know what the price range is for a rosy boa.... not because i cant afford one just curious... i saw a mexican rosy boa today for close to 450 bucks which i would guess is pretty steap...(pet shop).... so just if you can give me a general range on what is spent it would be apricated... thanks alot...

ps i do like them but dont plan on any for at least a few years... gotta make sure i can care for it properly

VI Reptiles · 01-14-05, 06:00 PM

I saw a pair in a pet shop for $300.

Removed_2815 · 01-14-05, 11:22 PM

Seems steep for a Mexican locale. However, if someone will pay $450 for it then that is what it's worth. You can readily obtain CB neonate Mexican mutts for $100 CAD. There is no general price for Rosy boas as it all depends on selective breeding; colour/pattern mutations, locale specificity, etc.
For example, I keep 100% locale specific San Gabriel Mountains Rosy boas as well as Kofa Mountains Rosy boas. I take great pride in the rarity of these locale specific animals and the price will reflect this rarity (especially in Canada - as far as anyone can tell, the Kofas are the only Arizona locale North of the border). Neonates from these animals (San Gabriel and Kofa Mountains) can be anywhere from $250 to $300 CAD, and they're worth every penny!
Cheers,
Ryan

Jeff_Favelle · 01-15-05, 12:44 AM

Don't bother with a pet store when over a dozen members here ACTUALLY BREED Rosy Boas and can sell you not only a superior specimen, but also follow up with proper advice and husbandry help. Why people would go to a pet store for that is beyond me.

peterm15 · 01-15-05, 12:26 PM

oh i wasnt planing on it... espically that one.. there selling a crestie (normal) for 275... so i figures it would be steep...

i dont plan on getting a snake yet but i got to hold it and they seem very nive.... when i can properly care for one i do plan on getting it from a breeder... there a better animal and you can get more help....

thans for the responses...

Katt · 01-15-05, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by RMBolton
You can readily obtain CB neonate Mexican mutts for $100 CAD.

I expect this kind of attitude from others, especially larger boid keepers, but to get elitist about rosy boas? Too darn funny. They're just erycines and the nice thing about them is that most erycine keepers aren't uppidity about their animals.

Let's keep this low key attitude and avoid the bs that goes on with other boids.

peterm15 · 01-15-05, 11:53 PM

ok im sorry katt but i really dont understand your post... i feel like an idiot but i dont...

i would really like to understand what your saying so i can see your point properly...

Katt · 01-15-05, 11:58 PM

I just don't see how an erycine lover can call any rosy a mutt. Mutt in the hobby is a word used to put down snakes, ie hybrids are mutts.

I understand what Ryan means by non-locale rosies, but there are non-locale greybands, but they're not called mutts, but generic greybands.

I felt that he was being puff chested by mentioning his pure and rare locale rosies and putting down generic rosies.

peterm15 · 01-16-05, 12:02 AM

oh ok i understand... thanks for clearing that up....

im mot really a snake lover a i dont have any yet but i see your point... by mutts i just thought he ment sub adult so that goes to show how much i know... lol...

either way i wouldnt take mutt as a bad thing... to me ( in my opinion) a mutt is just a snake that is not selective bread... which is fine with me...

HumphreyBoagart · 01-20-05, 04:56 PM

A snake doesn't have to be selectivly bred to avoid being a mutt. What makes a mutt is breeding two different species together. It's the same as in dogs. If you take a german sheperd and a rotweiller, for example, and breed them together, you are going to have a litter of mutts. It's the exact same in snakes, take two different species of snakes and breed them together, and you've got yourself a litter of mutts. Which I might add, is VERY frowned upon in the herp world.

HeatherRose · 01-20-05, 04:59 PM

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What makes a mutt is breeding two different species together. It's the same as in dogs.

Aren't dogs all the same species?

peterm15 · 01-20-05, 05:34 PM

ya weve had a discussion like this before and im gonna stay outta this one seeing as im not educated enough to properly respond... it would all be opinion...

but my opinion is if it works it works... but once again its just my opinion..

BoidKeeper · 01-20-05, 05:48 PM

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They're just erycines and the nice thing about them is that most erycine keepers aren't uppidity about their animals.

I'm probably more concerned about the locals of my Rosy Boas then any of my other snakes.
My Mid-Bajas are Bay of La, then I have my South Baja and my Deserts. I would never cross any of them together.
If I crossed my Deserts with my Bay of La Mid-Baja I would call it a mutt too and I don't think it's elitist or uppidity at all. Just like I wouldn't breed my Russian Sand Boa with my Rough Scale or my Rough Scale with my Kenyans.
Cheers,
Trevor

Removed_2815 · 01-20-05, 05:55 PM

I should really check this forum more often; I hadn't realized my post had come into question.

Jeez, Katt, I really thought pretty highly of you... until now.

Knowing full-well that you're a hybrid-lover (which is fine, I don't judge you) I am not even going to begin to try and convince you that this debate is not about being elitist (as locale specificity is an even grayer area than the whole hybrid debate) - and I know it would be falling on deaf ears. Anyone who uses the word "mutt" is not elitist. Perhaps this says more about you than me, as you've assumed that I meant it in a negative way. I've used the word in the sense that the animal's pedigree is unknown; a mutt (as in dogs) is worth less money (which is the actual topic of this post isn't it?), I never said I didn't like 'em so don't get yer knickers in a knot.

All the big names in Erycines generally agree that the downfall of Rosy Boa popularity in the past was due to this mixing of locale lineages. I would drop names but that seems a little insecure in my convictions.

Katt, go back and read my post, I never said that my locale specific animal is better than a mutt, but it is worth more money (are you disagreeing?). I simply stated a factor that is significant in price determination, plain and simple - please don't psychoanalyse my words and accuse me of being a puff-chested elitist.
Thanks!

Kind regards,
Ryan

BoidKeeper · 01-20-05, 06:13 PM

Personally Ryan I would rather pay you $250 ea or $300 each than pay someone else $100 because we share the same values and with you I know what I'd be getting. I'd be buying peice of mind as much as a Rosy Boa.
Cheers,
Trevor