has anyone heard of...

sam4snakes · 12-31-04, 12:12 PM

problems with dumerils having deformed or no tongues?? I have one that I have never seen his tongue flick. I was asking a local "expert" about this and he said that there is a problem with Dumerils being inbred and this affecting their tongues. He strikes at mice out of fear"i guess" but I have not gotten him to eat. The husbandry is right on. I have other snakes so in great condition, so I do know how to keep them, I am positive that husbandry is not an issue here. He is about 4 months and I have had him for about 1 month. He has eaten before as evidenced by the fact that he has shed and deficated since I have has him.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Happy New Year.

sam4snakes · 12-31-04, 12:22 PM

One thing to add, I do already have an appointment with a herp vet on Monday, just wondering if any of you all have heard of this.

Thanks

Piers · 12-31-04, 01:29 PM

I've never herd of something like that in dumerils. People talk of dumerils being inbred, but i've not seen any real evidence of it. I've been breeding them for about 8 years and all the babies are born normal. I've talked to other breeders and they seem to have all normal babies too.
If your animal was born without a tongue I'd say thats more to with chance than inbreeding.
Dumerils like a nice hot spot 95% + and to hide. this is most inportant for babies.
New born dumerils are known to be problem feeders, I've had some go 3+months before feeding. some will feed once and not feed for a few more months.
Any new born snake should have at lest (very lest) 3 meals before its sold. Dumerils should have more like 6-10 meals before they are sold.
Piers

Jeff_Favelle · 12-31-04, 04:23 PM

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Dumerils like a nice hot spot 95%

95% of what?

ssscales · 12-31-04, 04:57 PM

I've never seen this problem in any of my Dums or any Dums.

BOAS_N_PYTHONS · 12-31-04, 05:00 PM

JEFF:

LOL, might be Fahrenheit.

Or since its the holiday season 95% proof, that grow some hair on the chest

Tony

Jeff_Favelle · 12-31-04, 05:55 PM

95% would make you go blind, but what a way to go!!!!!!!!!!

bighillreptiles · 12-31-04, 06:10 PM

I have a glass of that Rum lmaf Paul

Piers · 12-31-04, 07:38 PM

Oh I guess I had booze on the brain! so unlike me!
Yeah I meant fehrenheit, sorry If it got a little confusing Jeff,lol
piers

dtocher · 01-16-05, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
95% would make you go blind, but what a way to go!!!!!!!!!!

Naw. Everclear pure grain alcohol has two versions. The 151 proof and the 190 (aka 95% alcohol) proof. I've most definately had straight shots of the 190 proof kind. Not saying I liked it, and not saying it was healthy, but I can still see.

Real fun to cut up watermelon and let it soak in the Everclear... alcoholic fruits!

C.ADAMANTEUS · 01-22-05, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by dtocher
Naw. Everclear pure grain alcohol has two versions. The 151 proof and the 190 (aka 95% alcohol) proof. I've most definately had straight shots of the 190 proof kind. Not saying I liked it, and not saying it was healthy, but I can still see.

Real fun to cut up watermelon and let it soak in the Everclear... alcoholic fruits!

yeah, but everclear tastes like a cotton ball.
the "Fruit punch" work though LOL
Rick

BoidKeeper · 01-22-05, 10:14 AM

Alchool is 95% but the closest place to buy it is Quebec. I hear that people cut the top off a water melon and dump a 13oz bottle into and leave it sit over night. Imagine what that would be like coming back up. ewwww
Cheers,
Trevor

pythonmdk · 01-23-05, 08:22 PM

YOu can get 95% alcohol in quebec? What type, is it everclear? I need some strong % for a drink I want to make but thought I had to go to the states to get it. SWEET. I JUst have to go to quebec, nice.