Serious Questions for you

Manitoban Herps · 12-25-04, 10:56 PM

Who here has considered leaving these forums before, how come?

sneaky_boa · 12-25-04, 11:23 PM

I have...censorship.
I generally am not a fan of moderated forums

However, having said that, I stayed because many people have many valueable things to add about caring for reptiles and surmounting any problems you might not have the answers to.

mykee · 12-27-04, 11:56 AM

Good luck finding a Forum that isn't moderated. I find that the Mods here have much less of a "God Complex" than other Forums and allow a lot of what would be censored or members banned. We have a fair amount of leeway on what we can say, and that's what makes this damn site so good. That and the fact that the Mods are doing this without any real support of "real" Administration makes them a godsend. Yay Ssnakess!!

marisa · 12-27-04, 12:09 PM

HAHA censorship.

Mykee is right. Other forums are so bad you can't even have ONE off topic message, you cannot say ONE "bad" word or you are gone, you cannot do anything.

I stayed here up until I became a mod because this is one of the easiest going sites on the internet. Now I am a mod and I stay because I want to keep this site going in the same fashion.

Marisa

varanus69 · 12-27-04, 12:20 PM

I'm sure most of us will agree the censorship is not a problem and that the mods are doin a great job but the problem with this site is ATTITUDES. I have seen way to many new people to the site and the hobby get there heads ripped off by people here cuz they ask a question that is common knowledge to us but not to a new guy....Some peoples egos here rival movie stars and there is no need for that crap here,we should all stick together and share info freely so groups like peta can't knock us down so easily. So in closing if some people lose the attitude,lose the egos and share info freely with newbee's NICELY and this would be the best site on the net.

BoidKeeper · 12-27-04, 12:44 PM

I left the mod team but I was not ready to leave the site. I started to take the job too seriousely and I was letting it ruin my time here on the site. I've been frustrated lots of times with the speed at which things happen around here and the reasoning behind some of the decisions, none of which I can remeber right now, but I will always suport this site, the admin and the mods because no matter what it is still the best site around.

When things get to me I try to take a break for a while instead of shooting my mouth off and doing something that I often regrete later on. If you stick around here long enough you'll see things come full circle. Things get fired up and reach a breaking point and things change every couple of months. It's the nature of the beast.
Cheers,
Trevor

Darren179 · 12-27-04, 01:17 PM

Varanus69 I agrre 100% with ya. This is the best site around without a doubt.

zero&stich · 12-27-04, 01:30 PM

I think part of the problem with new people coming in is, often than not, when they ask a question, they are taking the easy way out by postin on a forum.

My opinion and I will always stand behind it 100% is, if new herpers just buy a $20 us book and read it from cover to cover, then they would be far more educated then what a few people opinions measure up to.

I mean everyone will have a different answer and how many people, raising hands, have heard this question. "I keep getting different answersm which is correct?" If they had gone out and bought a book they would have built a foundation and would, my guess, would have been able to judge what was the more accurate information giving.

Edited last end, cause it was kinda harsh. Sorry.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble.

varanus69 · 12-27-04, 01:39 PM

hey ZERO at least they are takin the time to ask and learn.... I agree they should have bought a book first butthis is not an ideal world so lets make the best of it and help each other to the best of our knowledge... If someone asks about proper temp for a ball python and 10 people say 85 degrees and 1 person says 110 degrees than common sence would say go with the masses. everyone will have SLIGHTLY defferent answers but they will mostly be close to each other. Still no reason for ripping someones head off and acting like there a piece of **** you scraped off of your shoe.

varanus69 · 12-27-04, 01:44 PM

oh and is a book not just one persons ( or a few peoples) opinion on proper husbandry. What is the difference between someone putting there opinion on paper and selling it for $25 or putting it on a forum for all to see. Forums are for people to learn, share experiences make friends, and help others PERIOD.

spidergecko · 12-27-04, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by Manitoban Herps
Who here has considered leaving these forums before, how come?

Just curious but why are you asking?

zero&stich · 12-27-04, 02:00 PM

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hey ZERO at least they are takin the time to ask and learn.... I agree they should have bought a book first butthis is not an ideal world so lets make the best of it and help each other to the best of our knowledge... If someone asks about proper temp for a ball python and 10 people say 85 degrees and 1 person says 110 degrees than common sence would say go with the masses. everyone will have SLIGHTLY defferent answers but they will mostly be close to each other. Still no reason for ripping someones head off and acting like there a piece of **** you scraped off of your shoe.

Uh huh and if someone asks can I keep my bp in a folgers can, your still going to call me a Zero? Cause that has happaned quite a few times on forums as well, and you know darn well that would upset you to.

Or how bout the classic feeding live prey and having a scarred aninal? I've seen as well has others firsthand, broken jaws and such. You cannot feel but remorse for animals due to illknowlege.

I guess my statement up there was refering to "extreme" cases.

And yes I'll agree, this is the best herp forum I've seen out there]

Manitoban Herps · 12-27-04, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by zero&stich
My opinion and I will always stand behind it 100% is, if new herpers just buy a $20 us book and read it from cover to cover, then they would be far more educated then what a few people opinions measure up to.

Why would the forums be here then, if everyone was well educated on the forums there would be no questions too be answered, the forums are here so newbies come and ask questions, and people complain b/c it is too much righting for them..well don't reply if you feel that way. I feel thatquite a few memebers here "attack" others, i was on kingsnakee for3 years wiothout a problme, I come here and BAM..problems galore.

My opinion

marisa · 12-27-04, 02:35 PM

Who attacks who on this website?

Names please. In pm if you wish. You cannot come here and claim you have problems galore here and say a few members attack people without giving the moderation team names to solve this "problem"

So I'll be awaiting your pm or message here. Thanks.

Marisa

zero&stich · 12-27-04, 02:51 PM

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Why would the forums be here then, if everyone was well educated on the forums there would be no questions too be answered, the forums are here so newbies come and ask questions, and people complain b/c it is too much righting for them..well don't reply if you feel that way. I feel thatquite a few memebers here "attack" others, i was on kingsnakee for3 years wiothout a problme, I come here and BAM..problems galore.

Actually Ks moderation team is crap. I won't get into that one.
Also I'd like to add, from Boidkeeper, he is right. Most flames wars result in an extreme case. A while back on the corn forum, their was a guy who keeps 500 corns and was telling someone new to the hobby it was all right to feed live and it is better to feed live.

Under those circumstances, yes, you will see a large war. That is to be expected. But in the end the waves tide down.

Part of my orgianal post wasn't detailed enough and to those who got angry, I appogize. I'll explain again. My orginal post meant towards extreme cases. I mean, last time I checked, there was no such thing as a Folgers BP? That's what I mean.