New Bigger Problem, Need Help ASAP

doenoe · 07-09-04, 04:19 PM

Ok, first off i want to call me an idiot now.
That being said, i will tell whats going on. Maybe some of you saw the thread of the emperor scorpion with the now missing claw. Well today i forgot to put back the divider in the tank, and the little guy got attacked again. So now his other pedipalp got hurt. Im pretty sure he will loose this one to. So, then i have an emperor scorpion with no pedipalps. Unless there is some way to cure the wound on his "arm". He cant move it anymore.
What in the name of someone am i suposed to do now? I havent got a clue.........
Think its a better idea to euthanise him? If so, whats the most humane way to do that?
I havent got a clue what the chances of survival is on a clawless scorpion, but i guess they arent to big.
Darn it
I hope someone knows what to do, cause i dont know.....
Thanx in advance for any reply
Greetz Daan

manville · 07-09-04, 07:14 PM

......omg thats not cool at all..i guess you will just have to hand feed it..it will survive

anacondaman · 07-10-04, 01:47 PM

im not sure about handfeeding.....emperors have weak venom so they dont rely on there sting...they rely on their claws...i dont think hand feeing will work because scorpions r such stressfull animals... as much as it may pain you...if the scorpion can not eat after about a week....2 weeks tops! id advice to kill it. but remember this is my opinion only.

my 2 cents

adam

anacondaman · 07-10-04, 01:50 PM

i also realize that scorpions molt and regrow lims....but if it is an adult it may not molt again or it may not be for a very long time...which would just prolong the animals suffering.

reptile boi · 07-10-04, 02:21 PM

"im not sure about handfeeding.....emperors have weak venom so they dont rely on there sting...they rely on their claws...i dont think hand feeing will work because scorpions r such stressfull animals... "

what? and huh? Yes, emps have very weak venom and they dont rely on stinging their prey but what does that have to do with handfeeding an emp? And what did you mean by "stressfull animals"? I used to have really lazy emps which i always hand fed with no problem.
Doenoe,
as long as your scorp was not a problematic feeder, you shouldnt have any problems. But because both his pedipalps are missing, ur gunna have to help him hold up the cricket or w.e food source your feeding him up to his mouth until he finishes like he wouldve done with his pedipalps. He may or may not survive, but emps from my experience are very hardy animals, but he may not be able to breed ever again in his life if you were ever wondering since male scorps use their pedipalps to grab a hold of the females pedipalps to direct her to the spermataphore.

Thanks,
Ben

anacondaman · 07-10-04, 04:15 PM

by stressfull animals i ment that they respond negatively too outside stimuli....these are invertabrates and have no idea that you are helping them. the scorpion has no claws so that must meen it is more stressed than usual. putting your hand in its face will only stress it more. im not trying to tell you to kill the scorpion. thats why i said try for about 2 weeks. but if the scorpion is not eating you will have no choice but to kill it.

best regards to your scorpion...and try everything you can to get it eating. i wish you the best of luck

my 2 cents

adam

anacondaman · 07-10-04, 04:17 PM

you could also try damaging the crickets...this would make them slower and much easier to cease..if its possible for the scorpion!

adam

anacondaman · 07-10-04, 04:22 PM

and reptile boi...wut did u meen by hand feeding....im sure the circumstances with this scorpion are much different than ur scorps.

how did u hand feed the scorps?? im sure it would be pretty hard to hand feed an emp with those huge claws...not to mention stressful too the animal.

reptile boi · 07-10-04, 07:01 PM

Actually, its pretty easy, just rip off the crickets head and squeeze some gut out, take a pair of tweezers and touch the scorps mouth with some of the guts (this always triggers the or any other scorps to start nibbling away) and obviously you do NOT use your fingers. It CAN be pretty challenging for people who havent had a lot of experience with scorps, but once you get the hang of it, its really simple. Oh and also, try and hold ur breath when your trying to feed your scorp, i have found that by just breathing some air onto the scorps it sometimes frightens em n they might not eat.

Thanks,
Ben

SaIiLdVaEnR · 07-10-04, 07:49 PM

"i also realize that scorpions molt and regrow lims...."
Scorpions do not regrow limbs like tarantulas do. Their regenerative properties are not that great. Even baby scorpions have a great deal of trouble with regrowing limbs. I have one missing a leg, approximately 1 month old. I doubt he will regrow more than a stub.

If that scorpion loses its other claw, I am sorry to say, it will most likely die. Scorpions do not handfeed either, I do not know what gave you that idea. They may take food from your hands, but they take that food with their claws and not their mouths. They will not come up to your hand and start eating a cricket as they are reclusive animals.
(This goes for tweezers as well)
Aidan

anacondaman · 07-11-04, 12:03 AM

i agree....i still dont understand why you would even try to hand feed a scorpion unless it was damaged like the case in this conversastion..its makin the scorpions sound like friggen puppies or sumtin. like i said before...their response to outside stimuli is far to great for a tweaseers to shoved in their face.

i would just like to add that i have had many scorps...and even breed asain forest scorpions. and i did not know they could not regrow lims. thanks for the scorpion info SaIildVaEnR

adam

reptile boi · 07-11-04, 01:15 AM

Hey SaIildVaEnR,
Obviously a scorpion will not come up to you to be fed, thats why you approach them.

anacondaman,
I hand fed them because they were trouble feeders.

Thanks,
Ben

reptile boi · 07-11-04, 01:17 AM

either way doenoe,
You should at least try to get some food into ur scorp and see how it goes on with life.

Thanks,
Ben

doenoe · 07-11-04, 02:56 AM

thanks for the replies.
I will first just leave him alone for a few days and after that try to feed it. The pedipalp is still on there, but it will come off in a few days, just like the other one, i think.
Will try to take of the hindlegs and feed the cricket butt first. Wont kill it, since the scorp reacts on movement. Maybe make some kind of thingie which holds the tweezer with the cricket, so i wont have to be near him with my "Huge" hands. Sure hope it will work, cause i would hate to loose him.
But if it wont work.................whats the most humane way to kill it?
Ill keep you updated on the situation and thanks again for the replies, appriciate it.
Greetz Daan

SaIiLdVaEnR · 07-11-04, 09:09 AM

Have you ever tried approaching a scorpion? Seriously, think. A reclusive animal is going to RUN AWAY when approached, not sit there. The most humane way to kill it is to put it in the freezer.

Aidan