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06-13-04, 09:26 PM
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Steve Irwin under Federal Government investigation
...for frolicking with penguins and seals.
Fixed the Link:
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...7^1702,00.html
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06-13-04, 09:28 PM
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Link doesn't work.
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06-13-04, 09:29 PM
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MAYBE THIS:
PRESS HERE
Cya...
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06-13-04, 09:33 PM
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06-14-04, 09:34 AM
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All I can really say is... It's about time his brand of nonscience and poor practices came back to bite him in the ***.
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06-14-04, 11:23 AM
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Worse things have happened... I am still unsure of WHY he's being investigated. Whales are terrorized everyday by 'sight-seeing' boats all the time.
I have swam with humpbacks during their migrations past Puerto Rico, where I used to live... should I be under investigation too? Whales WILL approach you out of curiosity, so I don't discount his story completely.
Maybe I missed something... why is he under investigation?
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06-14-04, 11:30 AM
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I agree with Samba.
Thats completely rediculous to charge him. We have people killing endangered species illegally every day, yet we go after a guy who did no harm to the animals whatsoever. Talk about ironic. He does have alot of enemies obviously. I think he deserves alot more credit than he recieves..
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06-14-04, 11:38 AM
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I will add it does look like he didnt respect the laws when it comes to the penguins, but like i said before theres tons of animals being slaughtered for rediculous reasons and you're going to a charge a man for coming within 5 metres of them....
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06-14-04, 11:46 AM
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This is totally different than migrating whales coming up to someone swimming on the beach.
He did things in Antartica that are against the laws. What about the guy who might have spent the past ten years of his life in Antartica researching these animals from a distance to observe natural behaviours, following the rules, and now Steve has come by sliding down the hill with penguins and swims with the whales there? I think he should have to follow the laws like anyone else. Especially in fragile enviroments like Antartica.
Marisa
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06-14-04, 11:47 AM
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looks like more publicity for him ,
this is another stupid response by the people who want to charge him
jmo
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06-14-04, 12:49 PM
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I understand now... yes everyone should obey the laws but that doesn't mean everyone will. I thought researchers and such have special permission to observe protected animals in said environments. I don't think it was the smartest thing for him to do, but you can't change the past. Looking at the situation I think there was little harm done in his foolishness. Be glad he wasn't a poacher...
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06-14-04, 02:41 PM
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He is lucky, there was a video of a woman who was swimming in Hawaii when a pod of whales came up. She decided to stay and swim with them and one grabbed her foot and dragged her under nearly drowning her. She was charged also for interfering with the wildlife. Why should the laws be different for Steve?
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06-14-04, 02:51 PM
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Nita, you sure she was charged? I saw that video, you forgot to mention that the whale did bring her back up to the surface thus saving her life. (goes to show you how sometimes not all creatures are here to harm us). You made it sound like the whale was trying to kill her, when she wasn't at all.
From what I heard she wasn't charged and started to study those whales.
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06-14-04, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
"slides down hillsides with penguins; almost rubs noses with the notoriously dangerous leopard seal; and spends time in the inspirational company of two friendly humpback whales."
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Ok call me stupid but, what exactly is so evil about sliding down slopes with penguins or swimming around with some curious whales?
I mean, if i could i would do it too...
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06-14-04, 03:18 PM
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The problem is exactly that Soul Reaper. These animals are under protection laws to keep us AWAY from them so they can engage in normal behaviours without MORE human influence. Laws against getting close to wildlife are not strange. They are commonplace in areas with protected wildlife or fragile ecosystems like Antartica.
When someone goes and "slides down hills" with penguins, touches dangerous seals and interacts with whales there you disrupt everything the laws are trying to keep intact. Not to mention there are legitamite researches out there painstakingly building blinds, spending weeks if not years observing these animals in their natural form.
I wasn't against Steves baby feeding croc thing. But this I feel should be treated like anyone else. If I went out to Antartica and started messing around intentionally with wildlife, this would be one of my last posts as I would have to face the penalty. If he broke a law, he will have to face up to it. Or else, why have laws?
Marisa
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