New Snake: Female White Lip Tree Viper

Matt · 05-02-04, 01:30 PM

Picked up a large female at Hamburg

heres a beauty, but i am having some trouble identifying the species 100%

I bought her as a white lip, but another vendor at the show said she may be a pope's....and yet another person thinks maybe T. stejnegeri

Anyways, i got some close head shots, so anyone taht might know give me you opinion.......if not lemme know whatcha think of her?

Big_V · 05-02-04, 02:28 PM

Gorgeous looking snake....incredible green.

klein · 05-02-04, 03:11 PM

no idea what it is, but very nice and love the colour

Katt · 05-02-04, 03:16 PM

That snake is absolutely killer. The head is massive!

urd · 05-02-04, 03:33 PM

amazing colour

no idea what it is though:/

672 · 05-02-04, 03:56 PM

Wow beautiful color, love the red on the tail. How did you get her over the border?

Crotalus75 · 05-02-04, 04:11 PM

That is a stunning snake! The colors literally glow.....Unfortunately I know little about Trimeresurus and the like.

BoidKeeper · 05-02-04, 04:25 PM

I think she scares the s**t out of me!
Cheers,
Trevor

Simon · 05-02-04, 04:32 PM

I have no idea on identifying her. But man....
the coloration is so intense and such beast!!

What a true beautie!!
If it wasn't venomous I'll definately get into it. (Oh and I don't like the idea of veomoid either...so I wont get these)

That second picture of your is great!!!!!
I would never want to mess with something like that!!

Mustangrde1 · 05-02-04, 05:15 PM

Nice one that needs to be breed go for it

ETET · 05-02-04, 06:21 PM

Very nice color, the viper may be the following species:
Trimeresurus albolabris, T. popeiorum, T. steinegeri or T. yunnanesis.

They are extremely look alike and only a few things may distinguish them from one another:

1. T. albolabris male has white ventral-lateral stripe while female has none.
2. T. albolabris has its nasal and 1st labial scale united while T. popeiorum, T. steinegeri & T. yunnanesis has theirs separated. The other species has the same feature is T. erythrurus which is not very common and its scales are more keeled.
3. T. popeiorum and T. steinegeri both male and female has white ventral-lateral stripe. Scale count are not totally realiable. The only difference of these two are their hemipenis morphology while T. popeiorum has no spines vs T. stejnegeri has spines.
4. T. yunnanesis believe to be a subspecies of T. stejnegeri but recently many scientists and herpetologists believe it a separate species.

Hope this may help you..

ETET

Feed'em All · 05-02-04, 08:22 PM

Looks like arbolabris to me, not sure though...just my very first thought
Martin
by the way...WOWWWWWW!

kidchameleon · 05-02-04, 08:37 PM

wow, that is a really, really nice snake. it's colors are amazing

Matt · 05-02-04, 08:46 PM

thanks for the comments!

ed, thanks for the info, very informative.
I just did a quick search on the net and based strictl;y on head morphology alone, it reallys looks like its NOT a stejnegeri, and looks more like an albolabris.
the popes and white lip are so close though its hard to tell.

672, no problem at the boarder, they are not CITIES so they would have no concern with it

Gregg M · 05-03-04, 06:54 AM

Matt,
I am 100% sure that is a white lip....... With that being said, if you guys think she is awesome looking in the pics, she is a hundred times nicer and way more impressive in person..... Awesome buy Matt....... Well worth the cash.......