Well after over a month with not eating I had partial sucess today. My female started eating, had it about half in her mouth when I went to throw the rat in with my male she must have been startled and spit it out

. just went up and checked on my male and he polished his off. If she doesnt eat hers over night I'll try it again in another 5 days.
I stuck a pin up a mouse hoppers nose and crunshed/scrambled some brains. I squeezed out some ooze and used that to sent the rats.