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10-23-03, 08:50 PM
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substrate for brb?
This article says he uses peat as a substrate...
http://hamillreptiles.com/Epicrates.c.cenchria.html
I can understand why but i was thinking could i use green moss as a substrate since it stays wet and doesnt mold?
Im not sure what kind of moss it is but its the kind you get at the pet store in the package made for terrariums. I had a 29gal terrarium setup for 4 months and it never molded at all and it was 70% water and 30% moss plus the moss was wet 24/7.
I still have this big bag of moss im not using and it seems to me it would work great since brb's like the extra humidity.
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10-23-03, 09:02 PM
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Would this be the best setup for my BRB?
Large rubbermaid and then what the article says below
Use a substrate that can be kept at high humidity - I use wet to damp Canadian peat moss without problems. A plastic shoebox with a small hole cut in it with some sphagnum moss and some water is a good way to provide a nice humid section for your snake. Place the container near your heat source to keep the humidity level up
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10-23-03, 11:28 PM
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I think there was already a post on here about peat moss, but I might be thinking of somewhere else. Anyway, I think the consensus was that peat moss allows for too much mold growth.
I'd recommend paper towels or newspaper. If you're already using a rubbermaid that will be just fine with humidity, and you can't see in a humid rubbermaid anyway, so who cares if the papertowels or newspaper isn't as attractive.
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10-24-03, 12:29 AM
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I too use news paper as substrates for these beauties~
and it definately works fine for me....and they love it there. No problems at all~
and it's free (just get it anywhere....lol...especially after reading the day's news~
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10-24-03, 08:34 AM
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We use sphagnum moss for all of our humidity-loving species, and have not had a problem with it. Neither have the thousands and thousands ofother reptile enthusiasts and breeders who have been using moss for decades. Because it is acidic, it RESISTS mold growth, is much more appealing to look at than paper towel and stays moist FAR longer (We mist our moss about once a week.)
Another popular alternative is cypress mulch. I'll be trying this on my columbian rainbows as soon as I can locate some, but I can't coment on its effectiveness as of yet.
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10-24-03, 11:58 AM
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Peat moss is commonly used for herps as its resists visible mold growth due to the acidity. However it has been brought to my attention (thank you eyepsy), that it harvests aspergillus. Still confusing me because the stuff is so acidic, and can even mummify corpses for centuries. I've decided to err on the side of caution and the next bag of substrate for my tortie, frog, and snails with be coconut husk fibre. This stuff is incredibly messy for snakes though so not sure you would want to use it.
I've used numerous susbtrates for BRB and the one I prefer most, and have stuck with, is plain ol' ugly newspaper  If you don't like the look of it, cypress mulch can also work well
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11-04-03, 07:17 PM
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I use newspaper in the cage and papertowels in the wet hides.
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11-24-03, 05:35 PM
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I like cypress it works well in my mind and looks good to
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11-24-03, 11:46 PM
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Ive been using peat moss on my three BRB's without any problems. Havent seen a hint of any mold growth, keeps 100% humidity without any misting (though I mix it around once or twice a week just incase) and they like to occasionally use it to burrow in.
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11-24-03, 11:49 PM
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Linds, is Coconut husk fibre the same as T-Rex forest bed expandable substrate??
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11-25-03, 12:07 AM
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I use paper towels with no problems at all
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11-25-03, 03:37 AM
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11-25-03, 11:26 AM
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Kyle,
I cannot recall forest bed very clearly off the top of my head as I don't use pet shop substrates, but I do believe it is made from coconut husk. It should state on the package
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11-25-03, 03:28 PM
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 all it says on the package is 100% organic, highly absorbant, harmless if ingested, non-toxic and odorless?? Anyone else know if this is the same as Coconut husk? I ask because this was the first substrate I tryed on my BRBs and had tons of visable mold growth after a few days.
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