lemon juice?

Pia · 07-24-03, 02:21 AM

Omen, just read a post from about 2 wks ago "Bite...wrap...lemon juice" Is lemon juice good for getting a biting snake to let go?

Zoe · 07-24-03, 02:39 AM

the scent/taste of lemon or grapefruit will often insight a monitor or snake to let go, yes.

Pixie · 07-24-03, 06:52 AM

Rubbing alcohol or any type of alcohol is supposed to be a really good way to get biting/coiling snake to let go of it's grip. Apparently, hot water works too.

Pixie

Emily-Fisher · 07-24-03, 07:03 AM

Yes, lemon juice works but by the time that you get to the kitchen, cut open a lemon and squeeze the juice out of it, I am pretty sure that the snake would of already let go

Invictus · 07-24-03, 04:20 PM

LOL Emily... great point.

Yes, the acids from lemon juice really annoy snakes. If you don't happen to have the time frame that Emily described above (*still laughing*), dunking its head under water works too.

Pia · 07-24-03, 10:33 PM

Yeah, my kitchen is a looooong way from the snake's room. Maybe I can prepare a snake bite kit: alcohol, lemon juice and a bottle of water (all 3 just to make sure I'm covered:-). Maybe I could sell them on the internet! haha.

Jeff_Favelle · 07-24-03, 10:43 PM

OR, you could just NOT get bit. ???

The_Omen · 07-24-03, 11:21 PM

Hehehe..
It's actually a lot simpler than running to the kitchen and slicing a lemon

Easy trick -

Keep several loaded syringes (lemon juice), sans needle, in the fridge.
Have them on a lanyard or a necklace type of carry system.
Prior to handling any snakes or other critters, get one out and put it on. Hang an extra on a cage or on a nail in the wall as well, can't be too prepared.

If using the common sense rules of handling 8 + boids, have your spotters carry one also, just in case you can't get yours in place to use.

As for alcohol, rubbing alcohol is a no no for reptiles in this fasion, while it will work to get you unstuck, it can permanently injure the jacobsons organ. However, human life takes presedence.
Drinking alcohol is the type of alcohol, if you go that way vs. lemon juice.
Lemon juice is cheaper and besides.. who wants to waste a perfectly shaken martini?

Hot water?
Nah.. too long to warm it up and if too hot, now you are talking about some potentially serious injuries to not just the animal, but also to you.
Cold water?
Sometimes works.. but just how long does it take to get a sink or a tub full enough?
And just how long can most reptiles hold their breath if the water doesn't immediately intice a release?

Keep a lemon shooter with you and you will save precious seconds and save yourself some blood and skin, by having the animal release a lot sooner.

Bryce Masuk · 07-24-03, 11:22 PM

Actually the peel juice works the best its VERY bitter orange lemon or grapefruit

The_Omen · 07-24-03, 11:33 PM

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Actually the peel juice works the best its VERY bitter orange lemon or grapefruit

May be so.. BUT..

Can you buy peel juice in the same large quantities as regular lemon juice?

I have no idea, unless lemon extract is the same thing, but, I don't know that either.

Having enough to penetrate a tightly closed mouth is the key, which equals quantity instead of quality to me.

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Yes, lemon juice works but by the time that you get to the kitchen, cut open a lemon and squeeze the juice out of it, I am pretty sure that the snake would of already let go

Not really.. if it was a simple bite, yes, it would be over and done with before you realized it had happened.

In a full blown feeding response wrap.. ya got plenty of time to figure out what made the SFE occur.. so much time in fact that if you lose track of the time, then the animal wrapping you may try to start swallowing you

Bryce Masuk · 07-24-03, 11:55 PM

Omen When you squeese the piece of citrus fruit you direct the peel juice towards the animal that bit you the juice can be effective but not always the peel almost always is

One method the works that is 100% effective but its the last option is A blade either cut the head off or push it through the spine If I had large boid's I would always carry a 11" fairbarne stykes along with my EDC

The_Omen · 07-25-03, 12:20 AM

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Omen When you squeese the piece of citrus fruit you direct the peel juice towards the animal that bit you the juice can be effective but not always the peel almost always is

You missed one of my points.
Not every bite will have the mouth open enough to squirt a few droplets of spray from the lemon peel into the mouth effectively.

The syringe allows you to get into the mouth when it is closed tightly around a part of you.

Also, it is easier to keep loaded syringes available than to slice off lemon peels every time you handle the snakes.
The lemon juice also last longer than a lemon will in the fridge, more for less money as well.

'Quantity' is the key word.
Quantity lets you get a good amount into the snakes mouth, especially when mechanically directed into the mouth when it is biting too tightly to otherwise get spray droplets from a peel in.
Sufficient quantity also allows the juice to become highly effective.
Especially when directed into the mouth mechanically.

The_Omen · 07-25-03, 12:27 AM

Here's a silly example of quantity that just struck me and made me giggle..

I aim a lemon peel at you and it gets a few drops in your eyes.. ow for about a split second..

Now I take the syringe, the super soaker of the lemon world and squirt it in your eyes, with the force being sufficient to get really deep under your eyelids and washes out any and all of your natural tears.
Now you say OWWWIEEEE!!! for a lot longer.

reptile boi · 07-26-03, 01:10 PM

LOL that last part just made my day omen

sapphire_moon · 07-26-03, 06:19 PM

What do you mean "just not get bit"? I have had my bp for 2 years. And I'm still waiting to get bit. I know I will, it's just a matter of time, and when I do I know it will be my fault. So don't say just don't get bit, because you will one day, and one day you will regret not reading everyone's opinons on how to get a snake to release.