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05-15-03, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: May-2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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What animals can be in a BP cage?
I want to make my new "HUGE" cage more like a Habitat. I was wandering if ANY animals can be put in with the snake? Turtles, frogs, spiders, ANYTHING? What would leave each other alone? Thanks for yal's help.
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05-15-03, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2002
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I would not mix anything with a BP they are too easy to stress out. There are certain geckos that can live with anoles and tree frogs and stuff like that but as for balls they don't do in a large cage or with room mates.
Cheers,
Trevor
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05-15-03, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: May-2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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The cage TOTAL will be 6' long, by 5' tall, and 2' in depth. But it will be sectioned off 2'tall by 6' long, by 2' deep. And the 6' long will be down for it's swimming area. So it's a LARGE cage, BUT, for the 2 snakes will only be 6'X2X2. And a 2' swimming pool. But NO animals can be in with the Python, or the Boa? What about the Scorpion or tarantula? Can ANY have "Friends"
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05-15-03, 12:28 PM
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They are all lolitary creatures in the wild they, don't need or want friends. They "want" privacy and security.
Trevor
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05-15-03, 12:58 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 50
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What wasn't mentioned, is that ball pythons also like a small environment, the dimensions that you gave are WAY too large even for a giant adult female ball. If you have an environment that large, consider a different snake.
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05-15-03, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: May-2003
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OMG, you're not serious are you?!?! A spider or scorpion? Maybe you should get some tropical fish. Those can be mixed, not reptiles.
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05-15-03, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: May-2003
Location: Chambersburg, PA
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NOOOO Not the spider and scorpion WITH them. I am going to have the cage made with wooden dividers. So they can't see nor smell each other. I can SEE all 4 animals from the FRONT, but they will be divided. I was told fish have parasites the boa can get....???"
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05-15-03, 02:53 PM
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Any animal carries bacteria and possibly parasites that can be transferred to other animals. No matter how large the cage, mixing species is not a good idea. We don't have the cleansing winds and rains that Mother Nature provides, nor the easy getaway options of the great outdoors so that the animals can avoid each other.
Animals can most definitely smell each other through dividers, and bacteria, viruses and fungi can be airborne.
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05-15-03, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: T.O.
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My friend is keeping his to boas with a ball python and they are all dong fine.(all snakes are relativly the same size)
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05-15-03, 04:03 PM
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How do you know they are doing fine? Your friend is introducing animals from different continents. THat is some serious possible contamination from one ot the other. And unless you or your friend is a vet you would have no idea whats going on inside them.
Why people insist on keeping animals from DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD together I will never understand. Would you keep a Amazon Parrot in the same cage as a budgie or cockatiel? Would you keep a leopard gecko with a Crested Gecko? Its irresponsible and cheap to do so IMHO.
Marisa
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05-15-03, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: May-2003
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I totally agree with Marisa. Keeping a boa and a ball together is not only irresponsible but irrational. Why is he doing this? Its definitely not for a natural community tank, as balls are from Africa and boas hail from South America. Most of the time people cram animals together simply for lack of space for more cages. Not a good idea no matter how you look at it. This is not my opinion, its a FACT.
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05-20-03, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: Toronto
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Actually, alot of balls and boa's are from Canada/USA not their native contries. CB specimens are not going to be carrying diseases or parisites that can be given to other animals. I'm not saying that it is OK to keep them together, but the country thing just doesn't make sense. We keep lot's of African people with European people with Indian people, with Chinese people.
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05-20-03, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Portland, Maine
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The difference in home country effects every aspect of their care - temps, setup, humidity, photo period, habits, everything! Different species of snakes can't be compared to different races of people. A Ball Python and a Columbian Boa aren't two races of the same species...they are completely different species. That's like saying that you can keep a dove and a raptor in the same cage, with the same setup, and feed them the same food, because they are both birds. It just doesn't work that way.
And yes, captive bred animals still can and do carry diseases and parasites, no matter how well they are cared for by the breeder.
- Victoria :w
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05-20-03, 02:40 PM
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I know! other bps! (sorry in stupid mode)
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05-21-03, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally posted by SnowFoxx
The difference in home country effects every aspect of their care - temps, setup, humidity, photo period, habits, everything! Different species of snakes can't be compared to different races of people. A Ball Python and a Columbian Boa aren't two races of the same species...they are completely different species. That's like saying that you can keep a dove and a raptor in the same cage, with the same setup, and feed them the same food, because they are both birds. It just doesn't work that way.
And yes, captive bred animals still can and do carry diseases and parasites, no matter how well they are cared for by the breeder.
- Victoria :w
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I said in my post that I do not think that it is OK, but not for the reason that they are from different locales. Ball pythons and columbian boa's eat the same food, and have the same setup. It's the size differance that causes the problem, not the "temps, setup, humidity, photo period, habits, everything"
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