Boa genetics learning

sdiamond808 · 05-16-19, 07:12 PM

Love my kingsnake and now I am ready to get a boa. I think I like the sunglow coral morph. Question, after looking over this it feels like 9th grade biology, and I forgot it all. I see things like 100% het and t+. I tried reading up but my days of learning are far past. What am I looking for in a sunglow coral? Het or hypo? I read that 66% het is a scam?

Thanks

Andy27012 · 05-17-19, 01:14 AM

A coral Sunglow is a hypo Kahl Albino, coral is a line of Kahl Albino that is suppose to be brighter. A het animal means it carries both the recessive and dominant gene for a trait. Meaning if you breed two het for albino (which will look normal) babies a percentage will be albino and the rest will be het for albino(they carry the gene but look normal). Hypo is short fort for hypomelenistic and is a co dom trait meaning only one parent has to be hypo for 50% of the offspring to be hypo. 66% het is not a scam, it means there’s no visual markers for the trait so until bred there’s no way to know the animal is for sure carrying the gene, however there is a two out of three chance it is (66%). tyrosinase + is a form of albinism, currently there are three different lines of albino Kahl (t-) , sharp (t+) and vpi (t+). When these lines are bred against each other they throw all normals but bred to themselves give the albinism trait. To answer your original question your looking for coral Sunglow. I believe there are a few on morph market but I would make sure my hearts set on a coral Sunglow vs a Sunglow. It’s a two three hundred dollar difference and one I can’t tell the difference between. Sunglow boa constrictors on Facebook has outstanding animals and specializes in Sunglow boas.

sdiamond808 · 05-17-19, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy27012

A coral Sunglow is a hypo Kahl Albino, coral is a line of Kahl Albino that is suppose to be brighter. A het animal means it carries both the recessive and dominant gene for a trait. Meaning if you breed two het for albino (which will look normal) babies a percentage will be albino and the rest will be het for albino(they carry the gene but look normal). Hypo is short fort for hypomelenistic and is a co dom trait meaning only one parent has to be hypo for 50% of the offspring to be hypo. 66% het is not a scam, it means there’s no visual markers for the trait so until bred there’s no way to know the animal is for sure carrying the gene, however there is a two out of three chance it is (66%). tyrosinase + is a form of albinism, currently there are three different lines of albino Kahl (t-) , sharp (t+) and vpi (t+). When these lines are bred against each other they throw all normals but bred to themselves give the albinism trait. To answer your original question your looking for coral Sunglow. I believe there are a few on morph market but I would make sure my hearts set on a coral Sunglow vs a Sunglow. It’s a two three hundred dollar difference and one I can’t tell the difference between. Sunglow boa constrictors on Facebook has outstanding animals and specializes in Sunglow boas.

I appreciate it. My local place has a coral sunglow and it's nice looking. So should I be looking for 100% het%? And are any of the different lines better?

Thanks

sdiamond808 · 05-17-19, 06:42 AM

Also. I'm not trying to breed. Does het or hypo even matter?

**Andy_G** · 05-17-19, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy27012

A coral Sunglow is a hypo Kahl Albino, coral is a line of Kahl Albino that is suppose to be brighter. A het animal means it carries both the recessive and dominant gene for a trait. Meaning if you breed two het for albino (which will look normal) babies a percentage will be albino and the rest will be het for albino(they carry the gene but look normal). Hypo is short fort for hypomelenistic and is a co dom trait meaning only one parent has to be hypo for 50% of the offspring to be hypo. 66% het is not a scam, it means there’s no visual markers for the trait so until bred there’s no way to know the animal is for sure carrying the gene, however there is a two out of three chance it is (66%). tyrosinase + is a form of albinism, currently there are three different lines of albino Kahl (t-) , sharp (t+) and vpi (t+). When these lines are bred against each other they throw all normals but bred to themselves give the albinism trait. To answer your original question your looking for coral Sunglow. I believe there are a few on morph market but I would make sure my hearts set on a coral Sunglow vs a Sunglow. It’s a two three hundred dollar difference and one I can’t tell the difference between. Sunglow boa constrictors on Facebook has outstanding animals and specializes in Sunglow boas.

Good explanation, but I have a few minor corrections/add ons. Coral is basically a line bred trait (very similar to pastel)to increase overall colour and blushing, but they are not always that much brighter and the term gets misused/abused a lot. Sharp is actually a t- mutation just like kahl but the two are non-allelic (not compatible) which is why when crossed with each other they do not produce albinos, and in regards to t+, there are actually two lines, one of mainland/colombian lineage (VPI), and one of central american (nicaraguan locality) lineage, also non-allelic with each other.

sdiamond808 · 05-17-19, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

Good explanation, but I have a few minor corrections/add ons. Coral is basically a line bred trait (very similar to pastel)to increase overall colour and blushing, but they are not always that much brighter and the term gets misused/abused a lot. Sharp is actually a t- mutation just like kahl but the two are non-allelic (not compatible) which is why when crossed with each other they do not produce albinos, and in regards to t+, there are actually two lines, one of mainland/colombian lineage (VPI), and one of central american (nicaraguan locality) lineage, also non-allelic with each other.

I have no clue what that means. I am not trying to breed so does any of it matter in my situation? Looking at a Groovy coral albino today. As long as he looks good, does any of that matter?

**Andy_G** · 05-17-19, 10:29 PM

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I have no clue what that means. I am not trying to breed so does any of it matter in my situation? Looking at a Groovy coral albino today. As long as he looks good, does any of that matter?

Absolutely none of it. Hope you find one that you really like!

sdiamond808 · 05-18-19, 07:39 PM

I ended up getting a 1 year old kahl sunglow 66% het anery. Don't plan on breeding. She looks good. Breeder told me her orange patterns should get more orange as she ages.