Eastern Hogs

ssshane · 07-21-16, 08:14 AM

Here are a pair (1.1) of NC locale captive born Eastern Hogs

Also two male Melanistic (toad eaters)

Ian of Oldham · 07-21-16, 11:42 AM

Cool absolutely cool.

0.1.1 Royals 1. 0 Corns 1.0 Boa 1.0 Carpet, and a Mad Cat

SnoopySnake · 07-21-16, 11:44 AM

You're working with eastern hoggies!?!?

ssshane · 07-21-16, 04:36 PM

I am. I have sold all of my Westerns

macandchz · 07-22-16, 08:31 AM

really cool snakes. do they really eat toads or is that just a name? what do they eat in captivity?

Sublimeballs · 07-22-16, 11:56 AM

Difficulty switching over food source aside. How are these in captivity compared to westerns?

eminart · 07-22-16, 12:23 PM

That melanistic one is very nice. I kept a black one for a couple of days when I was a kid. I realized I wasn't going to be able to feed it, so I let it go.

ssshane · 07-22-16, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by macandchz

really cool snakes. do they really eat toads or is that just a name? what do they eat in captivity?

Yes, their natural prey is toads. I have some eating f/t rodents, while the others are still being offered toads. I will continue to try and convert them, not going to starve them for my convenience.

ssshane · 07-22-16, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublimeballs

Difficulty switching over food source aside. How are these in captivity compared to westerns?

Other than the preferred food, and lack of morphs, not much difference in captivity

Sublimeballs · 07-22-16, 02:55 PM

Interesting, how long have you kept them? I'm wondering about longevity when fed high fat prey.

**Andy_G** · 07-22-16, 03:13 PM

Very nice!!

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Originally Posted by Sublimeballs

Interesting, how long have you kept them? I'm wondering about longevity when fed high fat prey.

Westerns do well on rodents no problem...easterns will have problems if fed a strict rodent diet because of exactly what you mentioned.

Sublimeballs · 07-22-16, 11:54 PM

Is that from personal experience or hearsay? Hoping to hear personal experience.

**Andy_G** · 07-23-16, 04:54 AM

As far as easterns go...studies read and from very qualified experienced people that are local of which I am personally friends with...fully accredited and educated conservationists/zoologists who can legally keep them here as they are a native species and otherwise illegal to keep where I live.

Experience with westerns? Definitely...they ARE legal for me to keep and I have produced a lot of em.

I wouldn't pass the info on if I were not confident
..sure as heck isn't ripped off google.. Consider it whatever you like, though.

Sublimeballs · 07-23-16, 11:26 AM

Do you have any info on where I can find said studies? Not doubting you but would love a good read. These are some of my favorite snakes to find herping. Been curious for awhile if these suffer a similar fat e to T. Wagleri in captivity.

Don't need any info on westerns they've proven non problematic with high fat prey.

pet_snake_78 · 07-23-16, 01:21 PM

I have seen some really colorful easterns, there is plenty of color out there to chose from. I am glad to hear you're working with easterns! Plenty of others already doing the westerns. Toads are generally abundant and easily collected so no reason for that to be a big downer. Im sure someone down south could send them to people up north if they needed them but probably easier just to put the snakes to sleep for the winter any whoo.