Debating on what he actually is

Toggsy · 02-04-14, 10:23 AM

We've just bought adult bumblebee well that's what he was sold to us as although after closer inspection were now debating wether he may in fact be a killer bee due to his colouring and markings.
Both myself and mrs t have spent hours studying various photos of bumbles and killers as were not experts on royal morphs so we thought we would see what other people thoughts were.

We're not worried either way as he's a cracking snake

marvelfreak · 02-04-14, 10:30 AM

Looks like a Ball python morph to me. Bumble bees have wing and black strips. Lol
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I don't know what it is but it's beautiful.

Toggsy · 02-04-14, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Looks like a Ball python morph to me. Bumble bees have wing and black strips. Lol
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I don't know what it is but it's beautiful.

My thoughts exactly regarding the wings and black stripes lol

Soon as we seen him we had to have him he's lovely

**Aaron_S** · 02-04-14, 10:46 AM

Breed it and find out.

Looks like a nice bumblebee.

**Tsubaki** · 02-04-14, 01:39 PM

Don't know much about BP morphs, but he sure is handsome!!

Snakefood · 02-04-14, 03:00 PM

He looks like a slightly lighter version of my bee!!

MrGetLifted · 02-04-14, 03:01 PM

a very beautyfull snake indeed, id have too go with the killer bee in my opinion,

Pythonsrus · 02-05-14, 12:41 PM

definitely a bumblebee. the head gives it away. I have 2 killerbee girls. Very nice looking bumblebee though.

Valvaren · 02-05-14, 01:06 PM

Looks like a nice bumblebee to me. I googled some killers and have to agree the head doesn't seem to match those of killer bees.

Toggsy · 02-05-14, 02:14 PM

Cheers for that
Like I said in my OP I wasn't to bothered what he was but as you can see from the photos you can see why I questioned it as he is very light for bumble.

Snakefood · 02-05-14, 03:05 PM

He is very light colored, and has a lot of white on him for a bee, but like others stated the head is not quite right for a killer bee. but again, like stated above the only way to "prove" is to breed him.

ei: say you are breeding him to a spider

Bumble Bee x Spider, you would get: normal, spiders, pastels and Bumble bees.
Killer Bee x Spider, you would get: pastels and Bumble Bees

So if you did this project if you got normal and spiders, then he is a Bumble bee, if you don't then he's a killer bee.

Teal · 02-05-14, 05:22 PM

He is stunning, whatever he is! Lol

Toggsy · 02-05-14, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakefood

He is very light colored, and has a lot of white on him for a bee, but like others stated the head is not quite right for a killer bee. but again, like stated above the only way to "prove" is to breed him.

ei: say you are breeding him to a spider

Bumble Bee x Spider, you would get: normal, spiders, pastels and Bumble bees.
Killer Bee x Spider, you would get: pastels and Bumble Bees

So if you did this project if you got normal and spiders, then he is a Bumble bee, if you don't then he's a killer bee.

I can see what people mean with the head though
I'm actually hoping to breed him to a normal and going by the genetic wizard on WOB if he is a killer then I'll only produce either 50% bumble or 50% pastels

Genetic Wizard - World of Ball Pythons

[table]Male:|Killer Bee
Female:|Normal[/table][table]Percent|Fraction|Morph
50%|1/2|Pastel
50%|1/2|Bumble Bee[/table]Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by

Snakefood · 02-05-14, 05:59 PM

yes, true. breeding him to a normal will give the same results as breeding to a spider, if he's a bumble bee it's 25% chance of: normal, pastel, spider and bumble bee

If he's a killer bee then like you said 50/50.

I just used spider because I had recently done that equation and had the results fresh in my head!!

(I have a Bee and a Normal paired this season!!)

Toggsy · 02-06-14, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakefood

yes, true. breeding him to a normal will give the same results as breeding to a spider, if he's a bumble bee it's 25% chance of: normal, pastel, spider and bumble bee

If he's a killer bee then like you said 50/50.

I just used spider because I had recently done that equation and had the results fresh in my head!!

(I have a Bee and a Normal paired this season!!)

Would it be safe to breed him to a spider though ?
As from what I've read I thought breeding spiders to spiders resulted in dead hatchlings because he will still have the spider gene in him ?