Timor monitor questions - Page 3

DiscoPat · 02-26-13, 11:42 AM

I agree that public is not a good idea at all, no matter how "tame" the monitor is you can't rely on everyone have thing common sense to not do something very stupid.

People are very unpredictable, and will do stuff that seems like it is common sense not to do. I have seen people put there finger by a monitors mouth.

This brings up kind of a separate question in my mind.
Do you think a monitor enjoys time outside the enclosure in a place such that is away from loud noises and other people? Such as Wayne's Property.

It seems like they would enjoy it because there is much more space to explore but it may just stress the lizard out.

ilovemypets1988 · 02-26-13, 11:56 AM

hi zos, ive been reading all of your monitor threads lately and ive come up with this so far:

i understand that your are indecisive about what to get (understandable).
i read that the majority of your research has been based on a sav.
i read and understand that you want something that you can take for a walk (no pun intended).
i read that you have some friends that have private land upon which you would use to do the above on.
i read that you would like people to see the animal.

well im gunna make a few suggestions here, these are;

as your research has been based on a sav, then this would be your best option as that is where your knowledge is.
taking a monitor out in public could lead to serious problems that could possibly have a terrible knock on effect for the entire hobby (which in todays world is still frowned upon).
if you want people to see your monitor, why not take him/her somewhere private, do some videos and post them online, people will still see him/her but in a safe manner.
why dont you ask around to see if you can help someone with there monitor for a period of time, so you can see and get the experience before you buy 1 which will help you make your decision aswell.

1 last thing, i know that negative feed back and being told no is frustrating and you react as such, but please understand that they way you word things sometimes is what encourages such feed backs and comments, try to use your mind before you post a comment or say something as that can be the difference between people being polite and people being harsh

however overall i really do wish you take this all in as it is meant to be nice and polite and good luck with your decision.

infernalis · 02-26-13, 12:21 PM

I would get wheels that are rated for 1000 pounds each wheel.

jarich · 02-26-13, 02:14 PM

I know you were thinking of a bigger monitor, but based on a lot of your other criteria I think maybe an ackie would be your best bet for a first monitor. They are very active, very cool and somewhat more forgiving of things than a sav or timor would be. You can easily find captive bred babies that are used to humans and would be less likely to freak out when your friends are over and you take it out to hold them. Plus the enclosure doesnt have to be room sized, so when you move out its much easier to deal with and find space for in an apartment. They are smaller, but really that shouldnt deter you. They arent like bearded dragons that spend most of their days like bumps on a log. They are REALLY active. They have all the character and cool traits of a big monitor, maybe more, just in a smaller package. I really think they might be your best bet.

Zosime · 02-26-13, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

I know you were thinking of a bigger monitor, but based on a lot of your other criteria I think maybe an ackie would be your best bet for a first monitor. They are very active, very cool and somewhat more forgiving of things than a sav or timor would be. You can easily find captive bred babies that are used to humans and would be less likely to freak out when your friends are over and you take it out to hold them. Plus the enclosure doesnt have to be room sized, so when you move out its much easier to deal with and find space for in an apartment. They are smaller, but really that shouldnt deter you. They arent like bearded dragons that spend most of their days like bumps on a log. They are REALLY active. They have all the character and cool traits of a big monitor, maybe more, just in a smaller package. I really think they might be your best bet.

Yeah id be willing to get an ackie but iv only seen them for like 350+ and i dont know where really to find anyone who sells ackies iv seen them on back water reptile should i try there

Jeepers · 02-26-13, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zosime

Yeah id be willing to get an ackie but iv only seen them for like 350+ and i dont know where really to find anyone who sells ackies iv seen them on back water reptile should i try there

NO. NEVER... I recently ordered a Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman from there and it arrived dead.. They didn't even have any indications on the package that a live animal was inside... If I report that it can actually terminate their contract with FedEx.

I've heard many MANY reports of customers receiving dead or dying animals from Backwater, either dying from the trip or dying from illness. I do NOT recommend them based on what I went through with them.

jarich · 02-26-13, 03:01 PM

No, Backwater would definitely not be my recommendation, ever.

You can find them for cheaper but it may take a bit of time and searching. Do you have an expo that is coming in your area anytime soon? You can find them there cheaper. Kingsnake or Faunaclassified are both places to watch. They sell pretty quickly, especially the captive bred ones, but you can find yellows for around $250 or so. You get what you pay for though, so if you can save up, then the ones for $350-400 are really great.

infernalis · 02-26-13, 07:20 PM

Several members here breed them, I would support a fellow forum member first.

DiscoPat · 02-26-13, 07:51 PM

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Several members here breed them, I would support a fellow forum member first.

I agree with this.

I plan on buying Ackies in a few years (once I own a house.) and this is would be the first place I'd look.

poison123 · 02-27-13, 12:14 PM

Out of curiosity what is the minimum size cage for timors?

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 12:27 PM

While I agree that some locations aren't exactly ideal for taking pets to, its up to the individual animals personality, and the keepers level of responsibility.
I took our big sav and one of my retics to G-lit-ch last year, almost 400 people, live bands, flamethrowers, firedancers, fireworks, burlesque, and more for 4 days. I only took the animals out when it was appropriate, and it was a fantastic learning experience for everyone who was there. More then half the people were scared/tense when they saw them but by the end of it, everyone had a blast.
No more rewarding feeling then seeing kids smile when they come over a fear. (excuse my hairy chest)

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 12:29 PM

Be careful when and where you take your animals, condition them for it, test out the waters with some mock gatherings, try 2-3 people and work your way up from there. add music, add surprising sounds etc, small pets...
I lost the photo but I had one of the sav sleeping in the grass with 3 small dogs piled on him asleep...

**Aaron_S** · 02-27-13, 12:54 PM

I expected more from you.

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 12:57 PM

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I expected more from you.

Can you elaborate? They were never out during any of the activities that I thought would scare them in the least, they were never in the crowds, always off to the side, both of those animals are 100% comfortable around new people as long as those people don't act like morons. Whenever the sav is uncomfortable he lets me know and it stops there, we go off to the side and he runs around in the water chasing crayfish and bugs.

Terranaut · 02-27-13, 04:02 PM

I totally disagree with taking our reptiles out in public places but if there are places this activity is ok , then functions like the above or burning man or any alternative lifestyle showcase functions are it.
If you took a space alien to a sunday mass the people would run out of the building screeming but take him to a comicon and he would be a celebrity. The crowds at events like this respect the unusual and would embrace interactions with reptiles in most cases. I also doubt a day or 2away from their enclosures would pose any health threat. I also remember the thread these pics are from and it was a hot humid weekend so even better .
Call me crazy but I see a world of difference between the above and seeing peoples faces in a local park. So to me no harm ,no foul.