Timor monitor questions

[DeadlyDesires]

Originally Posted by War Machine

Get an adult Niloctus, Salvator, or Albig. And try and put a leash on it

lol no kidding..

[Zosime]

Originally Posted by War Machine

Get an adult Niloctus, Salvator, or Albig. And try and put a leash on it

you want to buy it for me smartass

[Lankyrob]

Originally Posted by Zosime

i have dogs their lame i like reptiles im going to get a monitor what ever all anyone has ever said is to not get one insted of actually helping me so screw it if it dies then it freakin dies what ever.....

This attitude is exactly the reason why people are responding to you in a negative way. How old are you? From your responses and inability to take advice and negative feedback i would guess you are a teenager?

This is a living breathing creature you are talking about, and you couldnt care if it died? If that is the case then you dont deserve to have any animals

[infernalis]

whoa.... regroup.

try this again polite this time.

I know exactly who this is, and if you guys (including me) give him the time, he will learn.

Just try and answer his questions in a civil manner.

And no more calling people smartass if you really want to learn, ask questions, take the good with the bad..

Now in all honesty, taking any large lizard out where the public can interact with it is not a good thing.

I made that mistake once with Chomper, and some idiot started up a dirt bike, the sound freaked him out and things got real ugly quick.

[Zosime]

Originally Posted by Lankyrob

This attitude is exactly the reason why people are responding to you in a negative way. How old are you? From your responses and inability to take advice and negative feedback i would guess you are a teenager?

This is a living breathing creature you are talking about, and you couldnt care if it died? If that is the case then you dont deserve to have any animals

im 17.. yeah i understand that and well i would care if it died but its just pissing me off because iv waited a year to learn from the mistake i had with my first Savannah monitor it had had parasites and then it died at the vet..and i only had it for 3 days before i brought it to the vet.. i was very upset about that so i waited a year and did research read alot wrote down a care sheet and got plans for a cage set out so i can get a Sav monitor..But i did a little reading on timor monitors and someone on another fourm said the care was a little like sav's just like humidity and temp wise not cage, I didnt know they were skittish or what ever i thought they were like savs temp wise i didnt know... MY BAD... thats why i was asking questions here because i wasnt sure i didnt know i read some sheet for like 30 min on timor's and for all i know it could have been wrong so there is no need to say i shouldnt have any monitors its just pissing me off because iv been waiting for a year wanting to get another monitor and then when i ask for help people just say i shouldnt get one >.< thats not helping me im going to get one ither way i just want to go through my options and see if there is something smaller than a sav and is under 200$

[DiscoPat]

I agree that public is not a good idea at all, no matter how "tame" the monitor is you can't rely on everyone have thing common sense to not do something very stupid.

People are very unpredictable, and will do stuff that seems like it is common sense not to do. I have seen people put there finger by a monitors mouth.


This brings up kind of a separate question in my mind.
Do you think a monitor enjoys time outside the enclosure in a place such that is away from loud noises and other people? Such as Wayne's Property.

It seems like they would enjoy it because there is much more space to explore but it may just stress the lizard out.

[DiscoPat]

Originally Posted by Zosime

im 17.. yeah i understand that and well i would care if it died but its just pissing me off because iv waited a year to learn from the mistake i had with my first Savannah monitor it had had parasites and then it died at the vet..and i only had it for 3 days before i brought it to the vet.. i was very upset about that so i waited a year and did research read alot wrote down a care sheet and got plans for a cage set out so i can get a Sav monitor..But i did a little reading on timor monitors and someone on another fourm said the care was a little like sav's just like humidity and temp wise not cage, I didnt know they were skittish or what ever i thought they were like savs temp wise i didnt know... MY BAD... thats why i was asking questions here because i wasnt sure i didnt know i read some sheet for like 30 min on timor's and for all i know it could have been wrong so there is no need to say i shouldnt have any monitors its just pissing me off because iv been waiting for a year wanting to get another monitor and then when i ask for help people just say i shouldnt get one >.< thats not helping me im going to get one ither way i just want to go through my options and see if there is something smaller than a sav and is under 200$

Why not get another type of lizard that can live in something that is easy to move?

At 17 I assume you will be moving out of your parents house within the next few of years.

Moving with a monitor that requires a cage larger than 4x2x2 is really hard to move. even moving a 4x2x2 sucks. I am renting a place now and I am kicking myself for not building Steve's cage with wheels, I will eventually have to move even if it is 3 years from now. It is going to be near impossible to move that enclosure and I will probably have to pay rent at 2 places at once and build a new enclosure at the new place, With Wheels this time. Then move Steve to the new enclosure and tear apart the old enclosure.

If you absolutely have to have a monitor for some reason build the enclosure with reenforced wheels. Remember the enclosure will have around a ton of dirt in it.

[Zosime]

Originally Posted by infernalis

And no more calling people smartass if you really want to learn, ask questions, take the good with the bad..

Now in all honesty, taking any large lizard out where the public can interact with it is not a good thing.

I made that mistake once with Chomper, and some idiot started up a dirt bike, the sound freaked him out and things got real ugly quick.

alright. ok i understand that now i didnt know iv'e seen videos on YT with theirs out at the park so i thought i could do it to but now i know that it isnt smart so i wont do it. Yeah that dosnt sound like a good situation lol i wouldnt want to deal with a scared like 3-4 foot monitor outside

[ilovemypets1988]

hi zos, ive been reading all of your monitor threads lately and ive come up with this so far:

i understand that your are indecisive about what to get (understandable).
i read that the majority of your research has been based on a sav.
i read and understand that you want something that you can take for a walk (no pun intended).
i read that you have some friends that have private land upon which you would use to do the above on.
i read that you would like people to see the animal.

well im gunna make a few suggestions here, these are;

as your research has been based on a sav, then this would be your best option as that is where your knowledge is.
taking a monitor out in public could lead to serious problems that could possibly have a terrible knock on effect for the entire hobby (which in todays world is still frowned upon).
if you want people to see your monitor, why not take him/her somewhere private, do some videos and post them online, people will still see him/her but in a safe manner.
why dont you ask around to see if you can help someone with there monitor for a period of time, so you can see and get the experience before you buy 1 which will help you make your decision aswell.


1 last thing, i know that negative feed back and being told no is frustrating and you react as such, but please understand that they way you word things sometimes is what encourages such feed backs and comments, try to use your mind before you post a comment or say something as that can be the difference between people being polite and people being harsh

however overall i really do wish you take this all in as it is meant to be nice and polite and good luck with your decision.

[Zosime]

Originally Posted by DiscoPat

Why not get another type of lizard that can live in something that is easy to move.

At 17 I assume you will be moving out of your parents house within the next few of years.

Moving with a monitor that requires a cage larger than 4x2x2 is really hard to move. even moving a 4x2x2 sucks. I am renting a place now and I am kicking myself for not building Steve's cage with wheels, I will eventually have to move even if it is 3 years from now. It is going to be near impossible to move that enclosure and I will probably have to pay rent at 2 places at once and build a new enclosure at the new place, With Wheels this time. Then move Steve to the new enclosure and tear apart the old enclosure.

If you absolutely have to have a monitor for some reason build the enclosure with reenforced wheels. Remember the enclosure will have around a ton of dirt in it.

eh because i really want a monitor i dont really like the other lizards i have a beardie i like it but i want a big lizard, yeah i bet just moving my beardies 55 gallon is a pain in the butt lol i cant even imagine how hard it would be to move a huge tank. Yeah i was actually going to build it on wheels but im worried about it just like leaving marks in the hardwood floor or the wheel breaking. Would you pick up the wheels at like home depot and what type of wheel like what should the max weight be like 1000 pounds for the wheels?

[infernalis]

I would get wheels that are rated for 1000 pounds each wheel.

[DiscoPat]

Originally Posted by Zosime

eh because i really want a monitor i dont really like the other lizards i have a beardie i like it but i want a big lizard, yeah i bet just moving my beardies 55 gallon is a pain in the butt lol i cant even imagine how hard it would be to move a huge tank. Yeah i was actually going to build it on wheels but im worried about it just like leaving marks in the hardwood floor or the wheel breaking. Would you pick up the wheels at like home depot and what type of wheel like what should the max weight be like 1000 pounds for the wheels?

Wheels on hardwood would be a lot better than sliding plywood against it.

I saw a thread on here a while back with someone building a mobile enclosure. I will see if I can find it. It requires more reenforcing but it will be so worth it.

Also if you do move it you'll need the most expensive U-Haul that is offered with the large ramp.
If you put 8 wheels on it the weight will be more equally distributed also.

Edit: Found it

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/varan...enclosure.html

The search function on this forum is great!

Way better than most forums I have been on.

[varanus1]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Please don't get ANY monitors......

I was going to say same thing lol. From what you mentioned in your post a monitor is not the choice If you need something to take out and play with.Unless your wanting to learn how to properly care for any monitors i would suggest not to get one.

[jarich]

I know you were thinking of a bigger monitor, but based on a lot of your other criteria I think maybe an ackie would be your best bet for a first monitor. They are very active, very cool and somewhat more forgiving of things than a sav or timor would be. You can easily find captive bred babies that are used to humans and would be less likely to freak out when your friends are over and you take it out to hold them. Plus the enclosure doesnt have to be room sized, so when you move out its much easier to deal with and find space for in an apartment. They are smaller, but really that shouldnt deter you. They arent like bearded dragons that spend most of their days like bumps on a log. They are REALLY active. They have all the character and cool traits of a big monitor, maybe more, just in a smaller package. I really think they might be your best bet.

[Zosime]

Originally Posted by jarich

I know you were thinking of a bigger monitor, but based on a lot of your other criteria I think maybe an ackie would be your best bet for a first monitor. They are very active, very cool and somewhat more forgiving of things than a sav or timor would be. You can easily find captive bred babies that are used to humans and would be less likely to freak out when your friends are over and you take it out to hold them. Plus the enclosure doesnt have to be room sized, so when you move out its much easier to deal with and find space for in an apartment. They are smaller, but really that shouldnt deter you. They arent like bearded dragons that spend most of their days like bumps on a log. They are REALLY active. They have all the character and cool traits of a big monitor, maybe more, just in a smaller package. I really think they might be your best bet.

Yeah id be willing to get an ackie but iv only seen them for like 350+ and i dont know where really to find anyone who sells ackies iv seen them on back water reptile should i try there