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dinosaurdammit · 02-26-13, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Can you please post actual proof that they are breeding these animals?

In the video he says he doesn't breed them yet has a male alone with a harem of females who lay their eggs in the food or dirt. This is breeding. None of the offspring are viable but if given 1/4 the chance they would be. He instead feeds eggs to the tegu and on the video says monitors

KORBIN5895 · 02-27-13, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

In the video he says he doesn't breed them yet has a male alone with a harem of females who lay their eggs in the food or dirt. This is breeding. None of the offspring are viable but if given 1/4 the chance they would be. He instead feeds eggs to the tegu and on the video says monitors

That doesn't mean he is a breeder. Has he ever hatched any of these eggs? Can you prove he sold the offspring?

So what if his female iggy laid eggs without a male present? Would you still consider him a breeder? That's a really bold ( and exaggerated statement) for such little evidence.

infernalis · 02-26-13, 09:21 PM

Getting some weird replies on this one..

sws · 02-26-13, 09:24 PM

always happens when something like this goes down no?

dinosaurdammit · 02-26-13, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sws

always happens when something like this goes down no?

honestly idk, i never had experience with "rescues" that wernt cat and dog related. I am unsure of how the community normally reacts to this type of thing.

sws · 02-26-13, 09:36 PM

i was meaning humans in general in situations like these.

dinosaurdammit · 02-26-13, 09:56 PM

so my cousin posted the situation to tumbler and this has happened:

"tumbleruser asked: I should clarify: they said they weren't THEIR animals from the pictures posted on that forum and deny that girl ever worked for them.

OH okay. Still strange.

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tumbleruser asked: I'm on the phone with D & M's Reptile Rescue And Rehabilitation, and they're saying that those are not animals and said the previous volunteer has not worked there. I kept it civil and they said there was nothing they can do about it, but I told them disclaimers exist. They have been getting calls and emails about what is going on about their shelter. I even told them "guys, it's not that hard to check in on reptiles". Make of it what you will :/

…they said that reptiles are not actually animals? That is really scary."

so d&m is saying that the pictures and video are not their animals. Cool. Just so we are clear its these people and not another D&M if it exist

D&M's Reptile Rescue & Rehabilitation

Graven Idol · 02-26-13, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

so my cousin posted the situation to tumbler and this has happened:

"tumbleruser asked: I should clarify: they said they weren't THEIR animals from the pictures posted on that forum and deny that girl ever worked for them.

OH okay. Still strange.

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tumbleruser asked: I'm on the phone with D & M's Reptile Rescue And Rehabilitation, and they're saying that those are not animals and said the previous volunteer has not worked there. I kept it civil and they said there was nothing they can do about it, but I told them disclaimers exist. They have been getting calls and emails about what is going on about their shelter. I even told them "guys, it's not that hard to check in on reptiles". Make of it what you will :/

…they said that reptiles are not actually animals? That is really scary."

so d&m is saying that the pictures and video are not their animals. Cool. Just so we are clear its these people and not another D&M if it exist

Firstly, I apologize for my reply if it created any confusion. Long story short, they have said repeatedly on the phone to me that these are not their animals and for the sake of civility I said "if I were in your shoes, I would put a disclaimer". But yes, they claim that they do not know you, that they have no idea why anyone would accuse them of this "horrible" thing and completely feigned innocence. It is really circulating on Tumblr and I posted it to my Facebook earlier. But yeah, man, she was really weird on the phone and I honestly don't believe her.

BTW, I'm ofborrowedlight on Tumblr.

dinosaurdammit · 02-26-13, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Graven Idol

Firstly, I apologize for my reply if it created any confusion. Long story short, they have said repeatedly on the phone to me that these are not their animals and for the sake of civility I said "if I were in your shoes, I would put a disclaimer". But yes, they claim that they do not know you, that they have no idea why anyone would accuse them of this "horrible" thing and completely feigned innocence. It is really circulating on Tumblr and I posted it to my Facebook earlier. But yeah, man, she was really weird on the phone and I honestly don't believe her.

BTW, I'm ofborrowedlight on Tumblr.

I used tumbleruser just in case you didn't wany your username shown. Thank you for clarifying. Did you speak to both david and his wife? And did they deny the woman who took the video too?

Graven Idol · 02-26-13, 11:08 PM

I'm cool with either with my Tumblr name, so no worries!

I have not spoken to David, I spoke to a woman, but since I did not bring up the videos, and just the pictures, that wasn't addressed accept she assured me many people were coming in and seeing for themselves that the animals were well cared for.

jarich · 02-26-13, 11:21 PM

In the video the owner mentions that various animals have laid eggs. I highly doubt that any in his care would be healthy enough to actually breed after he got his hands on them, but I suppose with the warm Arizona summers there is always a chance some of them did.

dinosaurdammit · 02-27-13, 10:50 AM

and the plot thickens

D&M`s Reptile Rescue - YouTube

KORBIN5895 · 02-27-13, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

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First off I really didn't mean to lump you with the bleeding hearts. I have known you too long to believe that. You are right that if that tegu is six inches, if the torts have rotting carapaces, if the boas are drowning in rusty drums and are blind from YEARS of retained caps, if the iguanas have ice cold water as they bake in the sun and are covered in ulcers then yeah they should be put down because that is humane.

You confuse me with Aaron a lot. I have never said I am "blunt" for the good of the animals. That's not me nor do I feel a need to justify myself for how I act.

As for my need to prove Erika wrong well I really don't have one. How are my post relevant? Simple. She is now making wild accusations and assumptions to make her case sound better! Where I'm from that's lying. So if she wants to stretch those points I have shown well what about other points?

Honestly I said my piece then I pointed out the breeder comment. If you guys feel this is acceptable then hey I made my case and I didn't stretch the truth.

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"I also wonder if he would've given you that boa you wanted so desperately that you even told the aspca you would take in your email complaint) if you would've made such a stink. Maybe when they close him down they will give it to you as a reward."

How do you know what is in her emails to the aspca?

Sorry it was to the Phoenix herp society not aspca.

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

So here is the email I sent to the phoenix herp rescue:

Boas had facial deformations, a few were blind from MANY YEARS of stuck eye caps, they were blind. When asking him where the red tail went he didnt know his quote and I swear "Huh I have no clue where my red tail went he must have been the one that died" to my responce "why'd he die?" he repiled " ahhh sometimes it just happens". Also one of the females was so badly skinny I doubt she can be saved. If she has a chance, the thinnest one I would really Like her. The one with the stuck eyecaps needs vet cae asap. I was able to remove the shed from the nose so she could breathe. Ones face is messed up so bad I believe it affects her hoe she eats. She needs vet care ASAP- their waterdish was a cold 55 gallon rusty drum that they had to struggle to get out of, the thin one almost drowned.

jarich · 02-27-13, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You confuse me with Aaron a lot.

Honestly I said my piece then I pointed out the breeder comment. If you guys feel this is acceptable then hey I made my case and I didn't stretch the truth.

Na, to me youre just the same person with two accounts. blah blah blah boas... blah blah blah ball pythons...same ****

(I honestly couldnt write that without laughing, so hopefully it at least got a smile out of you)

In reference to your second comment above, its not that I do or do not find it acceptable, I simply find it inconsequential. The thread isnt about Erica, its about D & M Rescue. Like TucsonRES said, the evidence is there all on its own.

KORBIN5895 · 02-27-13, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Na, to me youre just the same person with two accounts. blah blah blah boas... blah blah blah ball pythons...same ****

(I honestly couldnt write that without laughing, so hopefully it at least got a smile out of you)

In reference to your second comment above, its not that I do or do not find it acceptable, I simply find it inconsequential. The thread isnt about Erica, its about D & M Rescue. Like TucsonRES said, the evidence is there all on its own.

I must say giggled!