This makes me...angry

[RAD House]

Originally Posted by jjhill001

Five minutes is quick and painless compared to a year to a lifetime of abuse and neglect.

Originally Posted by D Grade

I agree, but I didnt think that was the main focal point of the discussion. Also every second takes forever while you're being killed.

No that was exactly the point that I was trying to make. Most recent research suggest that constriction is more suffocation than the bone crushing we often associate with it. As for venom being more humane you have obviously not read any human accounts of the effects of venom and the pain that it causes them. Either way in my opinion they are still better than a life of torture at the hands of a cruel owner. Just to be clear I also feed pre-killed and would never suggest someone do otherwise.

Originally Posted by Mmrseed

There is actually a huge difference between feeding a snake rabbits and feeding it kittens even if both are cute fuzzy and kept as pets. It's called the psychology of violence and in our society we accept certain levels of violence as ok...hence soldiers and cops can be trained to kill opposing armies and bad guys without being labelled psychopaths. Rabbits are and have been considered a food source for both people and snakes, kittens are not. Therefore seeing an individual who cannot make that distinction is appalling to us just like a soldier who kills civilians as well as enemy combatants. Even if technical cases can be made, there are lines we don't want to cross

Cats are and have been considered a food source by many societies. I am assuming you are not labeling these societies as entirely made up of psychopaths. Comparing feeding a kitten to a snake and killing another human being is a stretch by any psychological standard.

[Mmrseed]

No...societies that have traditionally eaten cats (or even dogs) are not psychopaths for doing so because that is normal for them and conditioned to think so. I may think it odd or am even repulsed by it given my cultural values but I don't think less of an entire culture. But this seems more of a deviation from a norm. Looked at clinically, there is no doubt that what happened to the cow before it became my western bacon cheeseburger was more violent than what may have happened to those kittens but that was necessary because there isn't anything else out there that tastes as good with bar-b-que sauce.....that's not true about kittens

[D Grade]

Originally Posted by MesoCorney

No that was exactly the point that I was trying to make. Most recent research suggest that constriction is more suffocation than the bone crushing we often associate with it. As for venom being more humane you have obviously not read any human accounts of the effects of venom and the pain that it causes them. Either way in my opinion they are still better than a life of torture at the hands of a cruel owner. Just to be clear I also feed pre-killed and would never suggest someone do otherwise.



Cats are and have been considered a food source by many societies. I am assuming you are not labeling these societies as entirely made up of psychopaths. Comparing feeding a kitten to a snake and killing another human being is a stretch by any psychological standard.

I figured that wasn't the point you were trying to make, but it's worth mentioning that constriction isnt a swift death. And venom has different effects depending on what it's injected into. As mentioned my C. Molossus kills in 10-20 seconds, a human will cerainy not die from the same bite in equal time. We're talking the difference of injecting xxx mls of venom into someone who weighs 200lbs vs a mouse that weighs well under a pound.