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RideOrDieB · 02-12-14, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharlynn93

I have fed live and f/t mice...have seen scary things even with the mice...got off lucky on a few occasions...i still won't feed a live rat (other than a pinky or fuzzy) just because they are bigger and stronger...glad all mine take f/t now...I breed my rodents, but still try not to feed live unless I have to...I DO get attached to my rodents, but I have to make myself realize it is the circle of life...I would rather them die humanely than watch a snake strangle them to death..

All I have to say is INSPIRING!!! Thank you!!!!

Sharlynn93 · 02-12-14, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB

So it did help your mindset feeding f/t? Bc I have never tried it my mindset tells me it would be almost as disturbing/stressful. But I do not know as I have never tried but if it is less stressful for me (as my snake can be effected by) AND safer I'd be willing to give it a go :-P

Gotta love the zoo! :-D

not directed towards me, but I have to say I definitely have a better mindset on f/t...once they grab it, I walk away and move to the next as opposed to hovering over their cage to make sure they aren't bitten, scratched, etc...less stress to them from me hovering, too....and knowing the rodent isn't suffering is comforting also....

your post came through before i posted this post

Jinxygirl · 02-12-14, 10:38 PM

If being sad about the rodent is what is stressing you out then you should switch to f/t. I am an animal fanatic and have kept many mice and rats as pets since I was a child and I would probably cry feeding live... But I don't feel any sadness feeding f/t. The animal is dead so it will not be feeling any pain or squeaking while your snake is constricting and consuming it.

Sharlynn93 · 02-12-14, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxygirl

If being sad about the rodent is what is stressing you out then you should switch to f/t. I am an animal fanatic and have kept many mice and rats as pets since I was a child and I would probably cry feeding live... But I don't feel any sadness feeding f/t. The animal is dead so it will not be feeling any pain or squeaking while your snake is constricting and consuming it.

exactly! I have mice and rats that are pets...they breed my feeders...have had rodents since i was 7 yrs old...f/t are the way to go....

RideOrDieB · 02-12-14, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I don't have to encourage you to keep doing something that may not be in the animal's best interest now do I?

I simply am saying maybe this isn't the right pony for you and there's no harm in that.

It's why I asked about other prey items like fish and crickets. There are snakes that eat both of those so why am I discouraging when I am trying to help you with your stress issue? You say you're stressed feeding mice so I suggest another species of snake that eats something else? How is that discouraging? Because it's not what you're wanting to hear?

No your right you don't have to encourage me... As well as I may have been a little over sensitive... Please understand I love my girl and would do whatever it takes for her to be happy and healthy, hearing you suggest other reptile options which insinuates getting rid of my snake- is hurtful. YES there are circumstances where people should not have certain Animals or an animal is in a bad place etc.... May not be what I want to hear... Which it appears there is no coping with feeding ...do or get over it... But I would find a better home for her if I couldn't provide BUT I can.

Oversensitive.... I'm sorry!

RideOrDieB · 02-12-14, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxygirl

If being sad about the rodent is what is stressing you out then you should switch to f/t. I am an animal fanatic and have kept many mice and rats as pets since I was a child and I would probably cry feeding live... But I don't feel any sadness feeding f/t. The animal is dead so it will not be feeling any pain or squeaking while your snake is constricting and consuming it.

Ahhhhhh spot on.... I am a vegetarian (off topic I know) but not bc ppl shouldn't eat meat but the way it's done. Shouldn't a mouse die a natural life not by euthanasia? But then their death in captivity isn't natural.... But doesn't it give them some sense? Even the mouse who is killed unnaturally anyway?l

Jinxygirl · 02-12-14, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB

Ahhhhhh spot on.... I am a vegetarian (off topic I know) but not bc ppl shouldn't eat meat but the way it's done. Shouldn't a mouse die a natural life not by euthanasia? But then their death in captivity isn't natural.... But doesn't it give them some sense? Even the mouse who is killed unnaturally anyway?l

I just think about it this way.. the mouse is going to die either way. I would rather it not feel any pain than have it be squeezed to death. Also.. they are going to be killing mice and rats for f/t feedings whether you decide to feed your snake that way or not.. so might as well put some dead animals to good use.

Sharlynn93 · 02-12-14, 11:09 PM

in nature the rodent can get away if necessary...(or the snake)...putting the 2 together in a small enclosure is forcing the 2 creatures into an unnatural environment...1 will fight for its life...if your snake isn't hungry, he/she loses...check out the thread Korbin posted earlier...scary stuff! I reiterate, I only feed live if i HAVE to...I love my rodents as much as my snakes, but pick your "pets"...

KORBIN5895 · 02-12-14, 11:15 PM

First off the feels **** just got way too deep in this thread.

Secondly I peed in the Kalamazoo river once.

Finally this is why live is so sketchy.

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Originally Posted by infernalis

once again, someone leaves a rat in with a BP overnight......

grabbed this off facebook just now

Click the arrow next to the name infernalis redirect to the thread.

Sharlynn93 · 02-12-14, 11:30 PM

perfect example..we had a scare once with our BRB...thought he had gotten bit...thank goodness it was the mouse's tongue we were seeing...never again...we euthanize beforehand now...much safer! even a bite is scary...this ^ is beyond comprehension!

RideOrDieB · 02-12-14, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

First off the feels **** just got way too deep in this thread.

Secondly I peed in the Kalamazoo river once.

Finally this is why live is so sketchy.

Click the arrow next to the name infernalis redirect to the thread.

This is tragic.

With that said I am left unconvinced a mouse could do this as I expresses why I don't feed rats they are SO smart. Btw I did see this posted earlier n meant to look at it... I do see there is still a risk in a mouse harming a snake!!! That is where I am in the grey area catch 22 unsure but of course want the best!!!!

Sharlynn93 · 02-12-14, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB

This is tragic.

With that said I am left unconvinced a mouse could do this as I expresses why I don't feed rats they are SO smart. Btw I did see this posted earlier n meant to look at it... I do see there is still a risk in a mouse harming a snake!!! That is where I am in the grey area catch 22 unsure but of course want the best!!!!

never underestimate a mouse...I have had mice totally cannibalize a tank of other mice...if a snake is uninterested in eating, and tries to ignore it, it will munch on it...just saying...I have had mice (my first pet) since i was a wee kid...they will eat anything...rats ARE smarter...they tend to shy away from what could eat it...mice are stupid...will walk right up to their faces and munch away...

KORBIN5895 · 02-12-14, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB

This is tragic.

With that said I am left unconvinced a mouse could do this as I expresses why I don't feed rats they are SO smart. Btw I did see this posted earlier n meant to look at it... I do see there is still a risk in a mouse harming a snake!!! That is where I am in the grey area catch 22 unsure but of course want the best!!!!

I had ten mice in an 8"W•15"L•4"H for one hour without food while i transported them to a friends house. This is two of them. One had a a piece of its hind leg eaten.

Mice are a much greater threat than a rat ever will be.

RideOrDieB · 02-13-14, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharlynn93

never underestimate a mouse...I have had mice totally cannibalize a tank of other mice...if a snake is uninterested in eating, and tries to ignore it, it will munch on it...just saying...I have had mice (my first pet) since i was a wee kid...they will eat anything...rats ARE smarter...they tend to shy away from what could eat it...mice are stupid...will walk right up to their faces and munch away...

Yes I do see that happening, would anyone feeding live mice let that happen??? I am always right there the entire time, if my girl didnt move long enpough for a mouse to nibble on her, i just dont see it. Grrrrr I know I'm seeming like a rude skeptic I will research more...
And I do see damaging the eyes could be an issue but wouldn't that be a freak accident? As well as any damage from a mouse?

Sharlynn93 · 02-13-14, 12:08 AM

I always sat my mine too..2 to 3 minutes and i would take them out...BUT a mouse can turn in a half a second and bite...I have been bitten by rodents that seemed docile just a second before...I personally do not want to take that chance with my babies...risk of infection, etc is to high...I love my rodents, but my snakes are worth more to me than they are...just my opinion and observations, mind you...