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02-12-14, 07:29 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
Can somebody explain to me why small rats are better then adult mice?
I always considered adult mice to be the better option do to their more mature bone development compared to that of a baby rat of the same size.
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02-12-14, 07:49 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by poison123
Can somebody explain to me why small rats are better then adult mice?
I always considered adult mice to be the better option do to their more mature bone development compared to that of a baby rat of the same size.
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It depends on what you're feeding.
For me, a single small adult rat is much easier then feeding a snake multiple mice.
It's as much a convinence for me as it is healthy for them.
Furthermore, not all snakes will eat multiple prey items in one sitting so you have that to possibly contend with as well.
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02-12-14, 08:58 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
I have my own opinions. Just bc someone espresses the way they feel does not mean they are closed to other options or suggestions, as I did post this bc I needed it “Your life does not get better by chance, it gets better by change.” –Jim Rohn - It's the rude snappy comments like "why do u have a snake if u have an issue feeding it" hmmmm do u quit something everytime u have an issue? That's messed up!!!! And that's amongst other rude comments. Obviously what I'm doing can't be that horrible as my snake is a thriving healthy snake. I'd like to improve something that is not a do or GET RID OF HER situation that's why my emotions are coming in.
Btw I am new to all of this can anyone tell me how everyone is replying to certain people? With their statement in their reply?
Thanks again for all the constructive critism and suggestions :-)))
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02-12-14, 09:16 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
The comments here have actually been pretty tame compared to what the could be/have been in the past given the subject matter.
Fighting is not going to help your case especially when the ground you stand on is unfounded, and the ground they stand on is proven.
I would suggest not feeding live as most other already have, but you have already made up your mind that what you are doing is ok, and I am not sure exactly what you are wanting us to offer.
GL with your snake.
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02-12-14, 09:25 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB
I have my own opinions. Just bc someone espresses the way they feel does not mean they are closed to other options or suggestions, as I did post this bc I needed it “Your life does not get better by chance, it gets better by change.” –Jim Rohn - It's the rude snappy comments like "why do u have a snake if u have an issue feeding it" hmmmm do u quit something everytime u have an issue? That's messed up!!!! And that's amongst other rude comments. Obviously what I'm doing can't be that horrible as my snake is a thriving healthy snake. I'd like to improve something that is not a do or GET RID OF HER situation that's why my emotions are coming in.
Btw I am new to all of this can anyone tell me how everyone is replying to certain people? With their statement in their reply?
Thanks again for all the constructive critism and suggestions :-)))
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Easiest way, is the just hit the quote button!
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02-12-14, 09:33 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB
I have my own opinions. Just bc someone espresses the way they feel does not mean they are closed to other options or suggestions, as I did post this bc I needed it “Your life does not get better by chance, it gets better by change.” –Jim Rohn - It's the rude snappy comments like "why do u have a snake if u have an issue feeding it" hmmmm do u quit something everytime u have an issue? That's messed up!!!! And that's amongst other rude comments. Obviously what I'm doing can't be that horrible as my snake is a thriving healthy snake. I'd like to improve something that is not a do or GET RID OF HER situation that's why my emotions are coming in.
Btw I am new to all of this can anyone tell me how everyone is replying to certain people? With their statement in their reply?
Thanks again for all the constructive critism and suggestions :-)))
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You ask to get better and want to improve but when given facts on what you're currently doing is a risk to your snakes health you simply state YOU FEEL you're doing just fine.
Why ask if you're not going to take hard facts? I also asked why you feel mice are NOT a threat but you never gave me an answer.
I made a suggestion that maybe this isn't the right pet for you. Not everything is right for everyone just because they want something.
Do you think a pony is right for every little girl who wanted one? No. I doubt it.
You're welcome to express your opinions but don't ask for suggestions at the same time if you're not actually open to them. How do I know this? Facts and pictures are given to you and you still say they aren't right.
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02-12-14, 09:42 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by kwhitlock
Easiest way, is the just hit the quote button! 
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Ahhhh thank u :-) for that and the MI welcome :-)
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02-12-14, 09:51 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
I don't understand... what is it exactly that is making you so stressed? Maybe I misunderstood your posts, I'm not really sure. I am also on team F/T though. It's just way less risky. A rodent can do your snake damage in a split second (like damage it's eyes) or bite and you won't even have time to pull them apart before some harm is inflicted.
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02-12-14, 10:09 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by valid
The comments here have actually been pretty tame compared to what the could be/have been in the past given the subject matter.
Fighting is not going to help your case especially when the ground you stand on is unfounded, and the ground they stand on is proven.
I would suggest not feeding live as most other already have, but you have already made up your mind that what you are doing is ok, and I am not sure exactly what you are wanting us to offer.
GL with your snake.
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I am sorry tho I feel like I am focusing on the negative. I do appreciate the constructive input and well wishes :-D
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02-12-14, 10:11 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
Welcome and best wishes RODB. I feed all my snakes f/t but I've had to feed live before too. I prefer f/t because I don't like the mouse to suffer and there's no risk of injury for the snake. I'm originally from MI and have been to K-Zoo on a few occasions. Hope you enjoy the forum.
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02-12-14, 10:15 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
You ask to get better and want to improve but when given facts on what you're currently doing is a risk to your snakes health you simply state YOU FEEL you're doing just fine.
Why ask if you're not going to take hard facts? I also asked why you feel mice are NOT a threat but you never gave me an answer.
I made a suggestion that maybe this isn't the right pet for you. Not everything is right for everyone just because they want something.
Do you think a pony is right for every little girl who wanted one? No. I doubt it.
You're welcome to express your opinions but don't ask for suggestions at the same time if you're not actually open to them. How do I know this? Facts and pictures are given to you and you still say they aren't right.
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Not every pony is right for every little girl BUT there is a right pony for every little girl. I just want the best for my girl. Your very discouraging and NOT ENCOURAGING.
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02-12-14, 10:17 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by RideOrDieB
Not every pony is right for every little girl BUT there is a right pony for every little girl. I just want the best for my girl. Your very discouraging and NOT ENCOURAGING.
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I don't have to encourage you to keep doing something that may not be in the animal's best interest now do I?
I simply am saying maybe this isn't the right pony for you and there's no harm in that.
It's why I asked about other prey items like fish and crickets. There are snakes that eat both of those so why am I discouraging when I am trying to help you with your stress issue? You say you're stressed feeding mice so I suggest another species of snake that eats something else? How is that discouraging? Because it's not what you're wanting to hear?
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02-12-14, 10:21 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
*******I have not been able to keep up with all of these some with pics websites n videos I'm not tech savvy n IAlso I have not been able to keep up with all of these some with pics websites n videos I'm not tech savvy n I'm on my own so sorry if I'm disregarding anyone and their info but I am looking at it all as I go none will be ignored!!!!!Also I have not been able to keep up with all of these some with pics websites n videos I'm not tech savvy n I'm on my own so sorry if I'm disregarding anyone and their info but u am looking at it all as I go none will be ignored!!!!!
This is for the benefit of my BP.
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02-12-14, 10:27 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
I have fed live and f/t mice...have seen scary things even with the mice...got off lucky on a few occasions...i still won't feed a live rat (other than a pinky or fuzzy) just because they are bigger and stronger...glad all mine take f/t now...I breed my rodents, but still try not to feed live unless I have to...I DO get attached to my rodents, but I have to make myself realize it is the circle of life...I would rather them die humanely than watch a snake strangle them to death..
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02-12-14, 10:30 PM
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Re: Need to relax!!!!
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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy
Welcome and best wishes RODB. I feed all my snakes f/t but I've had to feed live before too. I prefer f/t because I don't like the mouse to suffer and there's no risk of injury for the snake. I'm originally from MI and have been to K-Zoo on a few occasions. Hope you enjoy the forum.
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So it did help your mindset feeding f/t? Bc I have never tried it my mindset tells me it would be almost as disturbing/stressful. But I do not know as I have never tried but if it is less stressful for me (as my snake can be effected by) AND safer I'd be willing to give it a go :-P
Gotta love the zoo! :-D
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