Your view of the reptile hobby

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

This thread is a pathetic excuse for you people to pat yourselves on your back like a dog who learned to scratch it's own belly.

1) want to see "different" animals at shows? Invest YOUR time and YOUR money and make it happen instead of passing the buck.

2) the person advertising 'breeding' plans today are selling their animals tomorrow. So relax.

3) no matter if you keep them in tubs or massive rooms nothing is quite like being free so stop with the elitist bullpoop of "I don't use bins I'm not one of those evil hoarding people." We're ALL those people so stuff it.

Lori OUT! <drops microphone>

You can't be serious about number 3? That is some of the most backwards logic I have read in a while. It's not elitist to suggest that people should keep their animals in enclosures that provide them with space to move around and mental stimulation. None of us can truly emulate the conditions provided to snakes in the wild, but does that stop us from pointing out when somebody isn't providing the right husbandry for their animals?

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

You can't be serious about number 3? That is some of the most backwards logic I have read in a while. It's not elitist to suggest that people should keep their animals in enclosures that provide them with space to move around and mental stimulation. None of us can truly emulate the conditions provided to snakes in the wild, but does that stop us from pointing out when somebody isn't providing the right husbandry for their animals?

Fish tanks for ball pythons are better?

Poor husbandry and the use of tubs are 2 different things. I don't know what you keep and really I don't care if the answer is unicorns. You will never convince me that well sized tubs are detrimental to husbandry.

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Fish tanks for ball pythons are better?

Poor husbandry and the use of tubs are 2 different things. I don't know what you keep and really I don't care if the answer is unicorns. You will never convince me that well sized tubs are detrimental to husbandry.

Well sized tubs are fine. Housing a ton of snakes in undersized tubs is a different story.

Keeping reptiles is a bit selfish, but that doesn't excuse extraordinarily selfish or neglectful behavior. We aren't hypocrites for calling out those who collect animals obsessively or don't care about providing them will a decent enclosure. It's called common sense.

Honestly, it seems like you're taking up a perspective of moral relativism just to be a contrarian.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by CosmicOwl

Well sized tubs are fine. Housing a ton of snakes in undersized tubs is a different story.

Keeping reptiles is a bit selfish, but that doesn't excuse extraordinarily selfish or neglectful behavior. We aren't hypocrites for calling out those who collect animals obsessively or don't care about providing them will a decent enclosure. It's called common sense.

Honestly, it seems like you're taking up a perspective of moral relativism just to be a contrarian.

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