black vs. grey

[StudentoReptile]

They are subspecies of the same species. Black rat is Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus and Grey rat is P. o. spiloides.

Hatchlings and small juveniles look very similar, and a lot depends on the locality/region the animal came from. Do you know where your snake came from?

Google is useless in a matter like this.

[ilovemysnake]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

They are subspecies of the same species. Black rat is Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus and Grey rat is P. o. spiloides.

Hatchlings and small juveniles look very similar, and a lot depends on the locality/region the animal came from. Do you know where your snake came from?

Google is useless in a matter like this.

im actually not sure, he's a rescue, i want to say pa.

[CosmicOwl]

Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

They are subspecies of the same species. Black rat is Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus and Grey rat is P. o. spiloides.

Hatchlings and small juveniles look very similar, and a lot depends on the locality/region the animal came from. Do you know where your snake came from?

Google is useless in a matter like this.

I think almost all of the North American rat snakes look alike as babies. Although the yellow and everglades rat snakes go through the most extreme changes.