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Old 10-19-13, 09:03 PM   #1
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Seeing as you're only planning on doing one gen of line breeding there shouldn't be any issues, but I'd advise you do the responsible thing and let anyone know that wants to purchase a pair from you that the parents were related so they can decide for themselves if they'd like to acquire one from someone else to vary up the gene pool a bit.
I don't understand, if I advertise my clutch, and someone wanted to buy a pair wouldn't they already know the pair is related since they were born from the same clutch?

When I advertise my snakes I would show lineage information and pics of the parents, and then pictures of the available snakes.
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Old 10-20-13, 05:38 AM   #2
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I don't understand, if I advertise my clutch, and someone wanted to buy a pair wouldn't they already know the pair is related since they were born from the same clutch?
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Perhaps I missed something, im under the impression that the pair you have now that you plan on breeding are related. Is this not the case?
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I don't understand, if I advertise my clutch, and someone wanted to buy a pair wouldn't they already know the pair is related since they were born from the same clutch?

When I advertise my snakes I would show lineage information and pics of the parents, and then pictures of the available snakes.
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Perhaps I missed something, im under the impression that the pair you have now that you plan on breeding are related. Is this not the case?

if the snakes you plan to breed were brother and sister.....

then what you would be producing would be F2's

if the snakes your breeding are not brother and sister,or parent and hatchling,then it would be F1 you would produce mate

imo it's no big deal in the Carpet world,but some other species can produce deformitys when line bred too far

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if the snakes you plan to breed were brother and sister.....

then what you would be producing would be F2's

if the snakes your breeding are not brother and sister,or parent and hatchling,then it would be F1 you would produce mate

imo it's no big deal in the Carpet world,but some other species can produce deformitys when line bred too far

cheers shaun
ah got it. Thanks a lot
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Perhaps I missed something, im under the impression that the pair you have now that you plan on breeding are related. Is this not the case?
yes but I don't understand your point. If someone wanted to vary up the gene pool, what good would it do to tell them that the parents of my clutch were related, since taking the babies and breeding them to another jungle would be outcrossing? Wouldn't that be varying up the gene pool?
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yes but I don't understand your point. If someone wanted to vary up the gene pool, what good would it do to tell them that the parents of my clutch were related, since taking the babies and breeding them to another jungle would be outcrossing? Wouldn't that be varying up the gene pool?
What I was getting at is that some people are opposed to inbreeding their snakes, so if someone wanted to purchase a pair with intentions of breeding. You should, as a responsible breeder, let them know that the babies are from related parents so they can then decide for themselves if they want to purchase both from you or one from you and one from another breeder; to vary up their projects gene pool.
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What I was getting at is that some people are opposed to inbreeding their snakes, so if someone wanted to purchase a pair with intentions of breeding. You should, as a responsible breeder, let them know that the babies are from related parents so they can then decide for themselves if they want to purchase both from you or one from you and one from another breeder; to vary up their projects gene pool.
Ah I see. I understand now that you elaborated on that point.

But even then wouldn't it be hypocritical for that particular buyer to not want inbred babies, yet take a pair for the purpose of breeding? Related parents or not, wouldn't it be inbreeding for them to take related babies and breed them together?

But of course, I'd give info like that before hand(When I give lineage information on parents, they would be able to see for themselves whether or not the parents were related).
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