my snake's peculiar eating habit.

Snakesitter · 09-25-13, 02:13 PM

I see we have a lot of reptile romantics on here. ;-)

Joking aside, I agree with feeding animals in their regular viv (except for, as one person noted, breeding pairs). It saves time and reduces risk. I used to move my first snake long ago -- because I was "told" it was best -- but there is no good reason to do so.

desipooh.12 · 09-25-13, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakesitter

I see we have a lot of reptile romantics on here. ;-)

Joking aside, I agree with feeding animals in their regular viv (except for, as one person noted, breeding pairs). It saves time and reduces risk. I used to move my first snake long ago -- because I was "told" it was best -- but there is no good reason to do so.

why is it not good?
With my brb I put her in a separate tub & she feeds fine..
Ive heard of swallowing substrate when there taking the mouse down & causing problems while feeding in there own enclosure..
Would it be the best thing since they're young &
Obviously when there to big you can't put them in a feeding tank/tub..
then you'd be able to feed inside enclosure..
Makes more sense to me.. or am I missing something?
Enlighten me

KORBIN5895 · 09-25-13, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by desipooh.12

why is it not good?
With my brb I put her in a separate tub & she feeds fine..
Ive heard of swallowing substrate when there taking the mouse down & causing problems while feeding in there own enclosure..
Would it be the best thing since they're young &
Obviously when there to big you can't put them in a feeding tank/tub..
then you'd be able to feed inside enclosure..
Makes more sense to me.. or am I missing something?
Enlighten me

Handling a snake is stressful. Stress before a feeding can cause it to refuse. Stress after a feeding can cause it to puke.

Feeding it outside an enclosure can condition it to think picked up equals food. This can get you bit. Accidentally handling prey then removing the snake from the cage can get you bit. Putting a snake away that is in feeding mode can get you bit.

Swallowing substrate would only be a problem if your husbandry is crappy.

Snakes can get into a routine and what happens when your snake is grown but won't eat unless it is in a separate enclosure?

What part of a separate feeding tub makes sense?

desipooh.12 · 09-25-13, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Handling a snake is stressful. Stress before a feeding can cause it to refuse. Stress after a feeding can cause it to puke.

Feeding it outside an enclosure can condition it to think picked up equals food. This can get you bit. Accidentally handling prey then removing the snake from the cage can get you bit. Putting a snake away that is in feeding mode can get you bit.

Swallowing substrate would only be a problem if your husbandry is crappy.

Snakes can get into a routine and what happens when your snake is grown but won't eat unless it is in a separate enclosure?

What part of a separate feeding tub makes sense?

well it hasn't happened to me at all..
everything that your saying has not happened..
it might or might NOT..
and its called washing your hands continuously, which I don't mind because I do it everyday all day especially at work..
cypress mulch looks like shredded wood chips,
and the coconut shavings looks worse,
so I don't think crappy substrate would be it..
now if you use paper towels then sure feed em in its enclosure..
but the same goes for feeding them Inside their enclosure, if you constantly feed them in it everytime you open their enclosure they're going to think it meal time & either strike depending what you feed em.. Because of "conditioning"..
so either or it ALL has its PROS & CONS

Mikoh4792 · 09-26-13, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by desipooh.12

cypress mulch looks like shredded wood chips,
and the coconut shavings looks worse,
so I don't think crappy substrate would be it..

He never said crappy substrate. he said crappy husbandry.

If the conditions of the cage are right ( clean, correct thermal gradient and humidity) the snake should be able to pass it. After all how do you think snakes digest bones and fur/feather?

KORBIN5895 · 09-26-13, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by desipooh.12

well it hasn't happened to me at all..
everything that your saying has not happened..
it might or might NOT..
and its called washing your hands continuously, which I don't mind because I do it everyday all day especially at work..
cypress mulch looks like shredded wood chips,
and the coconut shavings looks worse,
so I don't think crappy substrate would be it..
now if you use paper towels then sure feed em in its enclosure..
but the same goes for feeding them Inside their enclosure, if you constantly feed them in it everytime you open their enclosure they're going to think it meal time & either strike depending what you feed em.. Because of "conditioning"..
so either or it ALL has its PROS & CONS

Well thank you so much for your words of wisdom and experience! How long have you kept snakes again? 6 months? 1 year?

I am really not sure what your option of substrate aesthetics has to do with impaction but I'm am sure that in your vast knowledge and experience you some how find relevance between the two.

I do not constantly feed my snakes every time I open the cage. I have never been bit when food was present. Do you know why? Because my hands are never near them. I have been bit twice while reaching into the cage. The male that bit me is fed in a separate enclosure because he is in with a female.

desipooh.12 · 09-26-13, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Well thank you so much for your words of wisdom and experience! How long have you kept snakes again? 6 months? 1 year?

I am really not sure what your option of substrate aesthetics has to do with impaction but I'm am sure that in your vast knowledge and experience you some how find relevance between the two.

I do not constantly feed my snakes every time I open the cage. I have never been bit when food was present. Do you know why? Because my hands are never near them. I have been bit twice while reaching into the cage. The male that bit me is fed in a separate enclosure because he is in with a female.

really your going to go off of how long I've had a snake? All YOU do is argue with people & over analyze everything.. I just asked how was it wrong &' I wasn't even talking to you AT ALL I mean come on all MOST of you people do all day is ATTACK people over the net because of ONE SIMPLE question, especially if YOU aren't apart of the little group you guys have here..
blah I'm to tires to keep going on & on about some of you & idgas if you guys go on & on about this I personally dont care because this is
cyber bullshit.. I came for POSITIVE advice not to be bitched for everything when I ask ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.. Good night

**Aaron_S** · 09-26-13, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by desipooh.12

well it hasn't happened to me at all..
everything that your saying has not happened..
it might or might NOT..
and its called washing your hands continuously, which I don't mind because I do it everyday all day especially at work..
cypress mulch looks like shredded wood chips,
and the coconut shavings looks worse,
so I don't think crappy substrate would be it..
now if you use paper towels then sure feed em in its enclosure..
but the same goes for feeding them Inside their enclosure, if you constantly feed them in it everytime you open their enclosure they're going to think it meal time & either strike depending what you feed em.. Because of "conditioning"..
so either or it ALL has its PROS & CONS

No pros and cons. You're just wrong.