The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact.

[possum]

Originally Posted by MDT

No limbic system in reptilian brain= no affection/attachment..

We are just a big warm blob that occasionally will elevate them out of their enclosure.

If that's true then why do they remain tame* & without constant reinforcement? (*and yes, I'm talking about my experience here, since those of you who don't believe they have any 'smarts' predictably don't fare as well in the handling department.) See, I think there's a correlation between our attitudes and theirs. That's my opinion, don't bother getting your panties in a bunch over it.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by possum

If that's true then why do they remain tame* & without constant reinforcement? (*and yes, I'm talking about my experience here, since those of you who don't believe they have any 'smarts' predictably don't fare as well in the handling department.) See, I think there's a correlation between our attitudes and theirs. That's my opinion, don't bother getting your panties in a bunch over it.

I'm not going to go far into this debate but because I'm really trying not to get into any.

BUT...it IS true. Just because you don't want to go do some research or back up your claims doesn't mean you have any sort of leg to stand on at this point. Science has proven you wrong...when it proves you right, then we can discuss your opinion.

I'd say they stay "tame" because they don't consider us a threat or a food item. That's entirely the reason.

I don't handle my snakes very much. I have ones that can tolerate tons of handling, some that tolerate a little and very few that tolerate none. All are kept the same and fed the same. Some just see me as a threat, others don't.

My attitude doesn't change with any of them, yet some were as calm as can be from babies and some were not.


For the record, I don't get why the people that believe the current facts are "close minded". Shouldn't YOU be open minded that you're just wrong and that in OUR readings we discovered this?

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by possum

If that's true then why do they remain tame* & without constant reinforcement? (*and yes, I'm talking about my experience here, since those of you who don't believe they have any 'smarts' predictably don't fare as well in the handling department.)

Well that's a funny one... I'm a full believer in the FACT that reptilian brains do not support the ability to form these emotions, and yet I haven't been bitten by any of my snakes so far in 4 years.

My gf has been bitten so that throws out the argument that my snakes aren't inclined to bite anyway. Yesterday I had to open my male boas mouth too have a look, I released him while still handling him and he didn't bite. Does this mean he loves me and enjoys me handling him?

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by possum

If that's true then why do they remain tame* & without constant reinforcement? (*and yes, I'm talking about my experience here, since those of you who don't believe they have any 'smarts' predictably don't fare as well in the handling department.) See, I think there's a correlation between our attitudes and theirs. That's my opinion, don't bother getting your panties in a bunch over it.

I've only kept one snake with a serious attitude. Albino cali king that bit everything for no reason. Other than that all my snake have always ranges from tolerant to cuddly/snuggly/lovey dovey.

And I only handle my reptiles when I'm doing cage maintenance of some sort, or checking up on them.

Tame and domesticated go hand in hand usually, according to most dictionaries. Care to explain how snakes are domesticated as well? Or if you dont agree , fine, explain to me why some wild caught snakes are 'tame' enough not to bite. WILD snakes. Your snakes remain tame without constant reinforcement has nothing to do with how much they enjoy your company. Seeing a wild snake that isnt nippy destroys your whole taming idea, unless you think jungle people tame them when nobodies looking. Some snakes are bitey, some like to eat, some are chill, and some are schizo. Some will learn to calm down because they arent being eaten , but thats as far as it goes.

How many rattlesnakes mambas and cobras have you tamed and watched TV with? Or are hots incapable of feeling? Practice what you preach and show me your tame vipers, they have brains too

[MDT]

Originally Posted by possum

That's my opinion, don't bother getting your panties in a bunch over it.

my panties remain "bunch-less"...


however, if you want an animal to form attachment, get a mammal.