Oh my god

dinosaurdammit · 02-27-13, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

This whole thing is being based on emotion and exaggeration. There're many things that have been said by both sides that just need to stop.

Now since you are taking up the cause let us look at what she has insinuated with out one shred of evidence. She calls him a thief for accepting a "surrender fee" because he doesn't take them to a vet when the site says it will go toward veterinary care. Without getting into that all it would actually make him a liar at the most.

She claims that he is a "backyard breeder pet shop" without any proof that he breeds or sells the offspring. As a matter of fact there is no proof this guy even sells any of the animals. So far it looks Luke he just keeps them ( which is his constitutional right).

She also comes along and shares a "true" story about him keep a guys monitor. She questions if he has it hiding in his house 10(?) Years later.... seriously? Don't most savs ( which I believe this one was supposed to be) die in the first couple of years? Yet he has managed to keep it alive for ten even though his husbandry for everything else is pretty rough.

Now this one is my favorite. She insinuates that Dave goes into people's back yards and "rescues" their tortoises! She basically says this guy is wandering neighborhoods and stealing animals!

Every last one of them is an unbiased personal attack. I have not said anything since I first said how I feel but I think this is getting ridiculous. Sure the guy doesn't take proper care of his animals. Honestly I don't think he should be running a rescue if he can't provide proper care. Do I personally care if he is shut down or not? Nope. I may think it's sad but I just don't feel like it is the end of the world.

Personally I think you all should stop your hearts from bleeding so some blood makes it back to your brains. That way maybe you could look objectively at some of nonsense being spouted and this could be handled properly.

Oh, Josh? That response style isn't flattering to you or your intelligence. Leave the foolishness to the regular ***hats. I think you are better than that.

I "insinuated" because they lie and lie about darn near everything. He kept a guys monitor whats to make me doubt he doesnt take other animals and refuse to give them back? Its not a far jump at all. Hoarders often do take other peoples animals because they feel that they would be doing better for that animal than someone else.

The bull snake is native and apparently you have to have permits to own one. Does he own permits? Probably not.

Iguanas dont need uvb. Aquatic turtles need greens. I have to wonder korbin if you ever trulywatch videos we post that are records of the conditions or you come in here to stir the pot. Phoenix herp just called a few mins ago and they asked for the number for dan krull. D&M has lied and lied and lied and provided piss poor conditions for these animals and yet you never say that in any of your post without dragging us in the mud, you just nit pick at us rather than actually adding anything of value- yes, we are emotional but no decision is made rationally, its all emotion based and we then try to rationalize it.

That video I just posted and i will post it AGAIN D&M`s Reptile Rescue - YouTube proves he has no clue, and now we dont know how old this kid is but if he is under 15 he cant even be helping out with "volunteer" work in arizona. NONE OF THOSE ANIMALS ARE KEPT RIGHT. Heck the water turtles are over crowed to the point of drowning and have no apparent heat or good filters.

KORBIN5895 · 02-27-13, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

I "insinuated" because they lie and lie about darn near everything. He kept a guys monitor whats to make me doubt he doesnt take other animals and refuse to give them back? Its not a far jump at all. Hoarders often do take other peoples animals because they feel that they would be doing better for that animal than someone else.

The bull snake is native and apparently you have to have permits to own one. Does he own permits? Probably not.

Iguanas dont need uvb. Aquatic turtles need greens. I have to wonder korbin if you ever trulywatch videos we post that are records of the conditions or you come in here to stir the pot. Phoenix herp just called a few mins ago and they asked for the number for dan krull. D&M has lied and lied and lied and provided piss poor conditions for these animals and yet you never say that in any of your post without dragging us in the mud, you just nit pick at us rather than actually adding anything of value- yes, we are emotional but no decision is made rationally, its all emotion based and we then try to rationalize it.

That video I just posted and i will post it AGAIN D&M`s Reptile Rescue - YouTube proves he has no clue, and now we dont know how old this kid is but if he is under 15 he cant even be helping out with "volunteer" work in arizona. NONE OF THOSE ANIMALS ARE KEPT RIGHT. Heck the water turtles are over crowed to the point of drowning and have no apparent heat or good filters.

So since he lies you make stuff up to make him look bad? Good call!
Yes I have watched the video.

How is this bold statement even relevant? Could it be his grandson or another relative? Do you even know this kid or his identity? You really need to stop grasping at straws to make your case.

Well Erika since you obviously didn't read what I posted let me point it out so you don't miss it.

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

She also comes along and shares a "true" story about him keep a guys monitor. She questions if he has it hiding in his house 10(?) Years later.... seriously? Don't most savs ( which I believe this one was supposed to be) die in the first couple of years? Yet he has managed to keep it alive for ten even though his husbandry for everything else is pretty rough.

Every last one of them is an unbiased personal attack. I have not said anything since I first said how I feel but I think this is getting ridiculous. Sure the guy doesn't take proper care of his animals. Honestly I don't think he should be running a rescue if he can't provide proper care. Do I personally care if he is shut down or not? Nope. I may think it's sad but I just don't feel like it is the end of the world.
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I haven't personally attacked you so for you to claim I am "dragging you through the mud and "stirring the pot" is again purely emotional and greatly exaggerated. You are actually slandering this man. Everything I pointed out is straight fabrications you made up and are using against him.

Could you also clarify where it was said or a video of these turtles drowning? Or is that made up also? Because this is the first I've heard of that.

I also wonder if he would've given you that boa you wanted (so desperately that you even told the aspca you would take in your email complaint) if you would've made such a stink. Maybe when they close him down they will give it to you as a reward.

cgillis · 02-27-13, 03:52 PM

"I also wonder if he would've given you that boa you wanted (so desperately that you even told the aspca you would take in your email complaint) if you would've made such a stink. Maybe when they close him down they will give it to you as a reward."

How do you know what is in her emails to the aspca?