When to change feeding schedule

[Ddub]

Originally Posted by ReticMan123

Lol how did this become an argument on how long digestion takes??

Lol, I made the unpopular claim that older boas take longer to digest! I never thought keeping meticulous records and sharing my findings would ever get me into trouble, but...

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I think you're wrong here. I'm no expert on these types of things but I still think you're wrong.

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Dude your wrong.

Also if you ask for my proof I can have it in two weeks when I feed everyone again.

I'm curious, do either of you keep feeding records? These statements make me think you do not. Does anyone besides Jendee and I keep records on your boas? If you don't keep records then how do you arrive at such conclusions? Do you really think a mere 2 week observation of your boa's feeding process will yield enough reliable information support such a claim?

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Ddub

Lol, I made the unpopular claim that older boas take longer to digest! I never thought keeping meticulous records and sharing my findings would ever get me into trouble, but...






I'm curious, do either of you keep feeding records? These statements make me think you do not. Does anyone besides Jendee and I keep records on your boas? If you don't keep records then how do you arrive at such conclusions? Do you really think a mere 2 week observation of your boa's feeding process will yield enough reliable information support such a claim?

Since when did when a snake poop have anything to do with its digestion rate or metabolism? A member on here has a viper that poops just a couple times a year. Does that mean it took nine months to digest a mouse? No it doesn't. Pooping really has nothing to do with how fast a rodent is digested.

Pretty much all of my boas poop once a month. Do I keep records? No, that sounds Like work and I work enough without keeping tabs on what they ate and when they poop.

[Ddub]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Do I keep records? No, that sounds Like work and I work enough without keeping tabs on what they ate and when they poop.

Nuff said. You know, if you did keep records and had differing results from mine I could accept that, but there is no point arguing the merits of good record keeping of your collection to someone who feels a simple check in a box with a date is too much work! We will just have to agree to disagree.

And I must just have the most regular boas on the planet. I get a turd for every prey item I feed.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Ddub

Nuff said. You know, if you did keep records and had differing results from mine I could accept that, but there is no point arguing the merits of good record keeping of your collection to someone who feels a simple check in a box with a date is too much work! We will just have to agree to disagree.

And I must just have the most regular boas on the planet. I get a turd for every prey item I feed.

So is this about how often a snake poops or is it still about how fast a snake digests its prey? You're starting to muddy the waters....

[Ddub]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So is this about how often a snake poops or is it still about how fast a snake digests its prey? You're starting to muddy the waters....

Seriously? This conversation is serving absolutely no purpose. You feel the way you do and that's that. I don't care to change your mind even if I were capable of doing so. It just doesn't matter to me. I have already agreed to disagree with you, what more is there?

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Ddub

Seriously? This conversation is serving absolutely no purpose. You feel the way you do and that's that. I don't care to change your mind even if I were capable of doing so. It just doesn't matter to me. I have already agreed to disagree with you, what more is there?

I accept your concession.

[Ddub]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I accept your concession.

I never conceded defeat. Just the overwhelming disire to stop arguing with a brick wall that has no empirical evidence to support any of his claims. After looking at some of your other posts here it seems you have quite a penchant for pointless argument. Good luck to you sir! This is the last I will post in this thread.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Ddub

Lol, I made the unpopular claim that older boas take longer to digest! I never thought keeping meticulous records and sharing my findings would ever get me into trouble, but...






I'm curious, do either of you keep feeding records? These statements make me think you do not. Does anyone besides Jendee and I keep records on your boas? If you don't keep records then how do you arrive at such conclusions? Do you really think a mere 2 week observation of your boa's feeding process will yield enough reliable information support such a claim?

You've been asked to show your records so why not show us all these records you claim as your information?

Personally, I have records. My rodents are bought at specific weight of 150 - 175 grams for my adult snakes. This is 10 percent of weight of the adults who get them. I weigh the rats so this isn't off. (Yes my supplier hates me).

I have established middle aged to senior snakes. I have ball pythons who have not slowed down their metabolism. I have 13 year old females who still eat and breed just as well as they did when I first got them years upon years ago.

Jendee, I don't see a metabolism issue with large snakes compared to baby snakes. 10 grams lost on a large snake is a drop in the bucket, and 10 gram loss on a baby could be 10% of it's total weight. Has nothing to do with metabolism, just size difference.

These are my observations over the last 15 years so you can take it or suck it.

[Ddub]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You've been asked to show your records so why not show us all these records you claim as your information?

Personally, I have records. My rodents are bought at specific weight of 150 - 175 grams for my adult snakes. This is 10 percent of weight of the adults who get them. I weigh the rats so this isn't off. (Yes my supplier hates me).

Jendee, I don't see a metabolism issue with large snakes compared to baby snakes. 10 grams lost on a large snake is a drop in the bucket, and 10 gram loss on a baby could be 10% of it's total weight. Has nothing to do with metabolism, just size difference.

Who ever said anything about there being an issue with large snake metabolisms vs neonates? Nobody even said there was a big difference in the digestion rates.

Are you even talking about boas? If so then that would mean your adults are all under 4 lbs and taking smaller than most large rats? Are they from one of the island races?

As for not showing proof, would it really change your mind if I did? Personally I doubt it.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Ddub

Who ever said anything about there being an issue with large snake metabolisms vs neonates? Nobody even said there was a big difference in the digestion rates.

Are you even talking about boas? If so then that would mean your adults are all under 4 lbs and taking smaller than most large rats? Are they from one of the island races?

As for not showing proof, would it really change your mind if I did? Personally I doubt it.

All your editing and short memory won't save you.

Here you go...

Originally Posted by ddub

Obviously it takes an adult longer to digest a jumbo or whatever than it does a baby to digest a hopper. The larger the prey item the longer it takes.

You brought up the difference between an adult and neonate in your first explanation so don't go trying to point fingers elsewhere.

Secondly, I have over 15 years experience. I currently keep ball pythons but I've kept boas as well but never bred them. So all my observations are from that time.

If you had proof, which you obviously don't, could sway me. I'm an open-minded guy.

[Ddub]

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[ReticMan123]

Aaron. You say you feed 150 grams is 10 percent? What kind of boa and how much do they weigh? How often are you feeding?