Reptile Guru Line Male x Black Dragon Female Clutch at Vital Exotics

[Gregg M]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

I know it's got almost no chance of happening like that, that's why I said "if". LOL I know genetics, I'm betting you're correct.

Oooops, didnt mean to make it sound like you didnt know genetics. I just like to explain my reasoning in detail. Sorry about that. LOL.

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

Oooops, didnt mean to make it sound like you didnt know genetics. I just like to explain my reasoning in detail. Sorry about that. LOL.

LOL, no problem. I'm betting it's a dominant trait or an incomplete dominant, but I suppose we won't know for sure until these eggs hatch.

[varanus_mad]

Originally Posted by Gregg M

Oooops, didnt mean to make it sound like you didnt know genetics. I just like to explain my reasoning in detail. Sorry about that. LOL.

Out of interest Gregg have you seen the second type of "komaini" the ones that start out with a pattern but go black later on.

[Vital Exotics]

varanus_mad, I have seen the types (they are not true v. s. komaini) that start out a dark brown color (sometimes in certain light and conditions they appear almost black) but they have a slight pattern show thru on the back/body and usually have quite a bit of pattern on the throat and belly area. They seem to "black out" or darken up with age, until at about a year or so of age, they appear almost black with exception to the pattern on the belly and neck that is usually visible for some time until they are older. I think these are either an intergrade between the "normals" and the v. komaini or possibly just a separate locality. There is not clear cut data about what comes from where over there in Indo, so it seems like very few people actually really know what is going on with all these different "black" Salvators. This clutch and hopefully my next one due any day now will be pretty exciting to see what influence the v. komaini (these two "blacks" that were bred this round are true komaini) have on the color of the hatchlings.

[varanus_mad]

Originally Posted by Vital Exotics

varanus_mad, I have seen the types (they are not true v. s. komaini) that start out a dark brown color (sometimes in certain light and conditions they appear almost black) but they have a slight pattern show thru on the back/body and usually have quite a bit of pattern on the throat and belly area. They seem to "black out" or darken up with age, until at about a year or so of age, they appear almost black with exception to the pattern on the belly and neck that is usually visible for some time until they are older. I think these are either an intergrade between the "normals" and the v. komaini or possibly just a separate locality. There is not clear cut data about what comes from where over there in Indo, so it seems like very few people actually really know what is going on with all these different "black" Salvators. This clutch and hopefully my next one due any day now will be pretty exciting to see what influence the v. komaini (these two "blacks" that were bred this round are true komaini) have on the color of the hatchlings.

Thats the hope lad

[Gregg M]

Originally Posted by Vital Exotics

This clutch and hopefully my next one due any day now will be pretty exciting to see what influence the v. komaini (these two "blacks" that were bred this round are true komaini) have on the color of the hatchlings.

Here is my best guess...

You will either get a clutch that consists of 50% normal but very nice looking individuals and 50% melanistics.

Or

You will get an entire clutch of normals that are 100% het for melanistic.

True Komainis appear to be a true melanistic morph. I think all that needs to be figured out is how the gene is inherited. Right now, I am going with dominant being the most likey because Komainis share the exact same locality and habitat as other normal looking Varanus salvator macromaculatus. (V. s. komaini are not a true subspecies and are actually V. s. macromaculatus as of right now)

[Vital Exotics]

I am hoping you are right Gregg. Too bad we have to wait until this summer to see these things hatch....