thankyou shaun ,i've gone through the net looking at other possible cause's ,including RI but he's showing asolutley no signs of that ,and given some more thought on what you said here and me thinking too ,i'm guessing i did handle him a bit too soon ,as it's been less than 48 hrs since he last ate......i don't mind admitting it scared me a bit as i was caught well off guard by it.......
regarding the cushion ,i'll call that instinct to protect me but given i'm surrounded by what i believe to be many experts i'll not do so again ,the last thing i want is for him to feel threatened.....
thankyou again for your advice ,appreciate that very much
craig