S.b. 310

[kernel]

Originally Posted by CDN_Blood

Should live animals really be an industry in the first place? I've said it before and I'll say it again; if people were more responsible and dedicated to their charges, this wouldn't be an issue, but since so many people are overproducing so many different reptiles, they've gotten to the point that they're considered disposable, so yeah, of course that is going to lead to problems and that's exactly why laws like this come into play. That's my 2 cents - over 'n out

I could really get into it with you here, but I won't. I don't feel like it right now and I don't want to create a mess for Wayne to clean up. I'll let someone else argue with you.

Originally Posted by jaleely

Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, because I take care of exotic pets, but in all reality I disagree with them being imported and sold, bred for colors despite genetic issues, etc., etc.
Kind of sucks, but there should not be snakes at all in every single dirty old petstore to be puchased by a squalling kid throwing a tantrum and then given to the pound a few months later.
As for the ones I have...If i have to get a license or something some day to keep them, fine.

I wouldn't have such a big problem if they didn't make the permits so outrageous and didn't require $250,000 insurance PER animal. Read the bill and you'll see just how ridiculous it is. Laws, Acts, and Legislation

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by jay0133

You just went there, why would you reply with no intentions.

Because I disagree and for the following reason.

Originally Posted by kernel

I could really get into it with you here, but I won't. I don't feel like it right now and I don't want to create a mess for Wayne to clean up. I'll let someone else argue with you.

I have such a tendency to get drawn into debates that I hate so that was the best reply I could come up with.

[shaunyboy]

as long as imported animals are transported CORRECTLY then i see NO problem with it

it gives natives a way to earn a living and feed their familys

it gives us access to snakes that are rare in captivity

imo,as long as its all done correctly,then there is no reason to stop it

cheers shaun

[jarich]

Originally Posted by kernel

I could really get into it with you here, but I won't. I don't feel like it right now and I don't want to create a mess for Wayne to clean up. I'll let someone else argue with you.



I wouldn't have such a big problem if they didn't make the permits so outrageous and didn't require $250,000 insurance PER animal. Read the bill and you'll see just how ridiculous it is. Laws, Acts, and Legislation

I think a lot of what this bill states is very reasonable. Its a much smarter bill than most of them I think, allowing for dwarf varieties to be excluded if they are under 12 feet. The insurance is not per animal, its for groups of five. That $200,000 is just insurance against the first five animals, and honestly if you have more than 5 giants, then I dont think the amount it costs for that much insurance should be a big deal. They almost explicitly state in the bill that its a way to make sure that people who dont have the money to keep them responsibly, dont have them.

The requirements for permitting seem valid, and fairly simple:
1) Register the snake/animal
2) Microchip it
3) Have two years experience with that type of animal
4) Have a working relationship with a vet
5) Make a plan for if the thing escapes
6) Prove financial responsibility by being able to provide insurance

I think thats perfectly reasonable. With the possible exception of the microchip, anyone with a giant should really have all that anyway. Microchips are cheap and simple, so no big deal. The insurance shouldn't cost more than about $1000-2000 a year or so, which again should not be a problem if someone has a snake that large anyway. I think this bill is a decent one, and a big improvement on most of the other ones Ive seen.