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Old 04-21-12, 12:33 PM   #31
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I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around
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I've gotten 2 of the 8 snakes I currently own from petstores. The first time was getting my first snake (technically my second, but my first one had escaped after having him for a week). They kept trying to turn me off buying him because he was "agressive", they put gloves on, were spraying him with a spray bottle, and kept trying to pick him up with a stick. At the time it seemed normal for me because I didn't know much, but once I held him I just had to bring him home. I had asked the same petstore a while back, if I could handle one of the boas they had. They did the same routine with the spray bottle, the gloves, etc. Told me the snake was agressive but he showed no signs of agression at all. We completely stopped going to that petstore ever since.

And second time, was the snake I got yesterday. The guy is pretty knowledgeable with all the reptiles and arachnids there. He can sexe a T, he handles snakes properly, knows which of his reptiles are best suited for people, etc etc. We go there quite a bit and he will talk with us about all the reptiles, ask how ours are doing..so I trust buying from that store.

The rest of my snakes are mostly off kijiji, but I have a few from expos. From the two times I've gone to the expo, I've always gotten healthy snakes and tarantulas. They always keep their tables neat, won't let anyone handle the snakes so there's less a risk of them getting sick between each other, and they're all great breeders. I'm hoping to never experience anything other than that.
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I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around
Does it bother you when people use rescue to refer to an organized, completely volunteer-run, registered non-profit organization that takes in, houses, feeds, provides vet care, participates in community events, educates pet owners, and rehomes pets people no longer want or can no longer keep?

Oh, and I almost forgot the taking in loads of pets that were confiscated by authorities from people charged with neglect and animal abuse. They don't usually come with a clean bill of health when they arrive at the "rescue"

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Does it bother you when people use rescue to refer to an organized, completely volunteer-run, registered non-profit organization that takes in, houses, feeds, provides vet care, participates in community events, educates pet owners, and rehomes pets people no longer want or can no longer keep?

Oh, and I almost forgot the taking in loads of pets that were confiscated by authorities from people charged with neglect and animal abuse. They don't usually come with a clean bill of health when they arrive at the "rescue"

Just curious
The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.
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I guess it depends on the pet shop. I would not by a snake from the large box type of pet stores. As others have said, you will have a greater selection going straight to the source.

I do tend to migrate towards the smaller breeder (like myself) when I can. I seem to get better customer service when it counts.
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For me personally it depends on the breeder or place. If they are clean and well kept is huge in my eyes. With expos, I love them but you do have to know certain things before you go (sanitizer before and after holding anything or just passing by a table for example). Customer service is big for me too, if I'm willing to spend any amount of money on an animal you have and you're rude and don't give me the time of day. I will happily go elsewhere. Even online buying, I have asked breeders questions and gotten really rude responses. That to me is stupid on their part because reputation is pretty important for breeders.
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The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.
Rescuing them from people dumping them on craigslist to some idiot who can't take care of them. A lot of people don't have time to screen adopters to find a fit owner to take over their pets. That's where the rescue comes in. The two are part of the same. The organization I worked with did both. In any case, it's really a point of semantics so It's kind of pointless to argue. I don't really care what you call it.
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Rescuing them from people dumping them on craigslist to some idiot who can't take care of them. A lot of people don't have time to screen adopters to find a fit owner to take over their pets. That's where the rescue comes in. The two are part of the same. The organization I worked with did both. In any case, it's really a point of semantics so It's kind of pointless to argue. I don't really care what you call it.
Well I am really glad you rescued that African grey from that old lady. You must feel so good that you rescued it from such horrible conditions.

There see my point?
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Well I am really glad you rescued that African grey from that old lady. You must feel so good that you rescued it from such horrible conditions.

There see my point?
And if the rescue did not exist, what were her options? Neglect it, or give it to the first person that would take it. This lady loved the bird like it was her own child. She rolled his cage into her room every night at bedtime. She had a terminal illness and was a widow. She was did not have the luxury of time to sit around and post ads on craigslist and meet with people. She had nobody else to turn to. She sure as hell wasn't going to sell it to some moron at a garage sale, never mind the fact that she was sick and couldn't host a garage sale even if she wanted to. So yes, I consider the bird and the owner both rescued from an unfortunate situation that was not the choice or fault of either of them. I certainly hope you never have to give up something you love under failing health with no one to help you out, even though you are making arrogant, pointed comments.

There, see my point?

Regarding the same rescue. My other grey came from an animal hoarder and was confiscated by police. She was not in the best shape to say the least. We also took in about 30 other birds from the same incident. This was the same organization I got my other bird from. The same organization that I fostered and helped rehome many birds with (as did many others). The same one that held free, public classes for proper care, screened adopters and conducted home visits, and set up tables at fairs and events to educate people. The same one that went to senior centers to hold events just to make old people happy. The one that had a group of people will full-time jobs that gave a significant portion of their "free" time to help out, not to mention incurring a financial burden to feed and care for animals that weren't theirs. So, yeah, I feel pretty good about it. If you don't consider it a rescue, that's fine. Give it another, more fitting name. It makes no difference. It still helps animals and people. You can talk crap all you want, I don't really care. I don't need your recognition. I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you.

Call it whatever you want. It makes no difference either way what you think of it or want to call it. When you get down off your holy perch, you might try helping others at some point instead of berating them. A lot of little things ad up in the world. I'm not singlehandedly changing the world in some amazing way. The things I've done in my life to help others are really minuscule in the grand scheme of things. But a few million people do one or two small things each to help out in the world it adds up. I'm sure you've even done a few in your life too, and it might have even made you feel good.
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I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around
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Does it bother you when people use rescue to refer to an organized, completely volunteer-run, registered non-profit organization that takes in, houses, feeds, provides vet care, participates in community events, educates pet owners, and rehomes pets people no longer want or can no longer keep?

Oh, and I almost forgot the taking in loads of pets that were confiscated by authorities from people charged with neglect and animal abuse. They don't usually come with a clean bill of health when they arrive at the "rescue"

Just curious
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[QUOTE=KORBIN5895;721273]The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.[/QUOTE

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Rescuing them from people dumping them on craigslist to some idiot who can't take care of them. A lot of people don't have time to screen adopters to find a fit owner to take over their pets. That's where the rescue comes in. The two are part of the same. The organization I worked with did both. In any case, it's really a point of semantics so It's kind of pointless to argue. I don't really care what you call it.
This is where I get annoyed with your skewed philosophy

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Well I am really glad you rescued that African grey from that old lady. You must feel so good that you rescued it from such horrible conditions.

There see my point?
Now you get annoyed and start really acting arrogant and ignorant.

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And if the rescue did not exist, what were her options? Neglect it, or give it to the first person that would take it. This lady loved the bird like it was her own child. She rolled his cage into her room every night at bedtime. She had a terminal illness and was a widow. She was did not have the luxury of time to sit around and post ads on craigslist and meet with people. She had nobody else to turn to. She sure as hell wasn't going to sell it to some moron at a garage sale, never mind the fact that she was sick and couldn't host a garage sale even if she wanted to. So yes, I consider the bird and the owner both rescued from an unfortunate situation that was not the choice or fault of either of them. I certainly hope you never have to give up something you love under failing health with no one to help you out, even though you are making arrogant, pointed comments.

There, see my point?

Regarding the same rescue. My other grey came from an animal hoarder and was confiscated by police. She was not in the best shape to say the least. We also took in about 30 other birds from the same incident. This was the same organization I got my other bird from. The same organization that I fostered and helped rehome many birds with (as did many others). The same one that held free, public classes for proper care, screened adopters and conducted home visits, and set up tables at fairs and events to educate people. The same one that went to senior centers to hold events just to make old people happy. The one that had a group of people will full-time jobs that gave a significant portion of their "free" time to help out, not to mention incurring a financial burden to feed and care for animals that weren't theirs. So, yeah, I feel pretty good about it. If you don't consider it a rescue, that's fine. Give it another, more fitting name. It makes no difference. It still helps animals and people. You can talk crap all you want, I don't really care. I don't need your recognition. I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you.

Call it whatever you want. It makes no difference either way what you think of it or want to call it. When you get down off your holy perch, you might try helping others at some point instead of berating them. A lot of little things ad up in the world. I'm not singlehandedly changing the world in some amazing way. The things I've done in my life to help others are really minuscule in the grand scheme of things. But a few million people do one or two small things each to help out in the world it adds up. I'm sure you've even done a few in your life too, and it might have even made you feel good.
Now I noticed a few things.

First you get offended easily because you seem to have been offended by my first post that I quoted.

Secondly you asked me a question and got all tiffy a again because you didn't agree with my answer. This leads me to believe you are narrow minded or a fool.

Finally you go off on how great you and your bird "rescue" are when no one even said boo about it. That leads me to believe you have a self esteem issue because you are mad that no one recognized your amazing contributions at the bird "rescue"(again I am unsure of what you rescued that ladies bird from).

Now all this together leads me to believe you are compensating and must suffer from little Richard syndrome. You have my deepest sympathy.
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Which responded to with this

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The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.[/QUOTE

Which caused you to say this



This is where I get annoyed with your skewed philosophy



Now you get annoyed and start really acting arrogant and ignorant.



Now I noticed a few things.

First you get offended easily because you seem to have been offended by my first post that I quoted.

Secondly you asked me a question and got all tiffy a again because you didn't agree with my answer. This leads me to believe you are narrow minded or a fool.

Finally you go off on how great you and your bird "rescue" are when no one even said boo about it. That leads me to believe you have a self esteem issue because you are mad that no one recognized your amazing contributions at the bird "rescue"(again I am unsure of what you rescued that ladies bird from).

Now all this together leads me to believe you are compensating and must suffer from little Richard syndrome. You have my deepest sympathy.
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So today I went into a shop, I call it a shop because it's not like a petsmart or pjs, but a store that breeds or gets reptiles from breeders and maintains normal pricing.
I have never been in this place, but was impressed by their stuff at a show. So I walked in and started admiring. Two guys working in the shop, roughly my age, who didn't even acknowledge me. It is a beautiful shop, I was very mich in awe of it. I have been debating on buying a spider ball and trying my hand at breeding or just buying a bumble bee, which they had. However I was so turned off by being completely snubbed I left

My question is, do buy from places like this or go straight to and from a breeder. Do you get a similar reaction as I did, or did you find them helpful and friendly?
i've found in reptile shops the staff tend to,NOT want to badger/smother you so leave you to look around,then approach the staff in your own time

i'm sure they get lots of people coming in for JUST a look at the cool reptiles,so they bide their time to see if your buying or just looking mate

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.....RESCUE

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.................................................. ...............................RESCUE

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sorry mate,i couldn't resist

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