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08-23-17, 11:39 AM
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Re: When It Rains...It Pours!
When dealing with anything venomous your goal should be not being bit at all, you never know how your body is going to react. This is not a hognose.. these snakes can cause human envenomation, it's a whole other level.
The reason the bruising went up all the way over his shoulder is not because of being bit around the elbow area. It's because it was a single bite with no chewing. This guy LET himself be bit by one to "test it out". Also he was hospitalized for 5 days and sent home with his arm still black and blue. It's too bad he didn't keep a record of how he felt, but it much of hurt a mother.
Here is a study that compares the Philodryas venom effects with Bothrops (Lancehead snake), perhaps this will explain you more what potential these snakes carry: Experimental ophitoxemia produced by the opisthoglyphous lora snake (Philodryas olfersii) venom
I'm not trying to scare you off, but if you are considering these snakes, you need to understand what you get yourself into. Also, no, they won't kill you, but a serious bite will not be a comfortable experience and likely observation is required...
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08-23-17, 12:18 PM
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Re: When It Rains...It Pours!
Yeah...I think I'll pass. This 58yr old doesn't need the kind of drama that the Baron's Racers could provide should my mind wander...as it often does. If I was younger, I probably would've given it a go.
If anyone else is interested in the Baron's, let me know and I'll pass it on to the seller of the other snakes I'm purchasing. He's just north of Greensboro (NC).
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Originally Posted by TRD
When dealing with anything venomous your goal should be not being bit at all, you never know how your body is going to react. This is not a hognose.. these snakes can cause human envenomation, it's a whole other level.
The reason the bruising went up all the way over his shoulder is not because of being bit around the elbow area. It's because it was a single bite with no chewing. This guy LET himself be bit by one to "test it out". Also he was hospitalized for 5 days and sent home with his arm still black and blue. It's too bad he didn't keep a record of how he felt, but it much of hurt a mother.
Here is a study that compares the Philodryas venom effects with Bothrops (Lancehead snake), perhaps this will explain you more what potential these snakes carry: Experimental ophitoxemia produced by the opisthoglyphous lora snake (Philodryas olfersii) venom
I'm not trying to scare you off, but if you are considering these snakes, you need to understand what you get yourself into. Also, no, they won't kill you, but a serious bite will not be a comfortable experience and likely observation is required...
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08-26-17, 01:42 AM
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Re: When It Rains...It Pours!
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Originally Posted by Scubadiver59
Yeah...I think I'll pass. This 58yr old doesn't need the kind of drama that the Baron's Racers could provide should my mind wander...as it often does. If I was younger, I probably would've given it a go.
If anyone else is interested in the Baron's, let me know and I'll pass it on to the seller of the other snakes I'm purchasing. He's just north of Greensboro (NC).
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I saw a male blue phase Baron's racer at the show last Saturday. Loved the color, but not so much the housing requirements or the fact that a random bite would likely ruin much more than your day. Not fatal, but a bloody inconvenience for however long it takes for your immune system to sort out the effects of the venom and get over it. Like you said, I'm older and wiser than that now, or at least like to think so, lol.
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