Pet Shops

[CDN_Blood]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around

Hah! You're starting to sound like an old pro

[hellosugaree]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around

Does it bother you when people use rescue to refer to an organized, completely volunteer-run, registered non-profit organization that takes in, houses, feeds, provides vet care, participates in community events, educates pet owners, and rehomes pets people no longer want or can no longer keep?

Oh, and I almost forgot the taking in loads of pets that were confiscated by authorities from people charged with neglect and animal abuse. They don't usually come with a clean bill of health when they arrive at the "rescue"

Just curious

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by hellosugaree

Does it bother you when people use rescue to refer to an organized, completely volunteer-run, registered non-profit organization that takes in, houses, feeds, provides vet care, participates in community events, educates pet owners, and rehomes pets people no longer want or can no longer keep?

Oh, and I almost forgot the taking in loads of pets that were confiscated by authorities from people charged with neglect and animal abuse. They don't usually come with a clean bill of health when they arrive at the "rescue"

Just curious

The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.

[ssshane]

I guess it depends on the pet shop. I would not by a snake from the large box type of pet stores. As others have said, you will have a greater selection going straight to the source.

I do tend to migrate towards the smaller breeder (like myself) when I can. I seem to get better customer service when it counts.

[hellosugaree]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

The first one is not a rescue. What are you "rescuing" them from?

The second one sounds like it would be okay to call a rescue.

Rescuing them from people dumping them on craigslist to some idiot who can't take care of them. A lot of people don't have time to screen adopters to find a fit owner to take over their pets. That's where the rescue comes in. The two are part of the same. The organization I worked with did both. In any case, it's really a point of semantics so It's kind of pointless to argue. I don't really care what you call it.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by hellosugaree

Rescuing them from people dumping them on craigslist to some idiot who can't take care of them. A lot of people don't have time to screen adopters to find a fit owner to take over their pets. That's where the rescue comes in. The two are part of the same. The organization I worked with did both. In any case, it's really a point of semantics so It's kind of pointless to argue. I don't really care what you call it.

Well I am really glad you rescued that African grey from that old lady. You must feel so good that you rescued it from such horrible conditions.

There see my point?

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around

.....RESCUE

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^^^^^
sorry mate,i couldn't resist

cheers shaun

[Skits]

I've gotten 2 of the 8 snakes I currently own from petstores. The first time was getting my first snake (technically my second, but my first one had escaped after having him for a week). They kept trying to turn me off buying him because he was "agressive", they put gloves on, were spraying him with a spray bottle, and kept trying to pick him up with a stick. At the time it seemed normal for me because I didn't know much, but once I held him I just had to bring him home. I had asked the same petstore a while back, if I could handle one of the boas they had. They did the same routine with the spray bottle, the gloves, etc. Told me the snake was agressive but he showed no signs of agression at all. We completely stopped going to that petstore ever since.

And second time, was the snake I got yesterday. The guy is pretty knowledgeable with all the reptiles and arachnids there. He can sexe a T, he handles snakes properly, knows which of his reptiles are best suited for people, etc etc. We go there quite a bit and he will talk with us about all the reptiles, ask how ours are doing..so I trust buying from that store.

The rest of my snakes are mostly off kijiji, but I have a few from expos. From the two times I've gone to the expo, I've always gotten healthy snakes and tarantulas. They always keep their tables neat, won't let anyone handle the snakes so there's less a risk of them getting sick between each other, and they're all great breeders. I'm hoping to never experience anything other than that.

[UwabamiReptiles]

For me personally it depends on the breeder or place. If they are clean and well kept is huge in my eyes. With expos, I love them but you do have to know certain things before you go (sanitizer before and after holding anything or just passing by a table for example). Customer service is big for me too, if I'm willing to spend any amount of money on an animal you have and you're rude and don't give me the time of day. I will happily go elsewhere. Even online buying, I have asked breeders questions and gotten really rude responses. That to me is stupid on their part because reputation is pretty important for breeders.

[Terranaut]

Getting popcorn!!!

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Fredricks

So today I went into a shop, I call it a shop because it's not like a petsmart or pjs, but a store that breeds or gets reptiles from breeders and maintains normal pricing.
I have never been in this place, but was impressed by their stuff at a show. So I walked in and started admiring. Two guys working in the shop, roughly my age, who didn't even acknowledge me. It is a beautiful shop, I was very mich in awe of it. I have been debating on buying a spider ball and trying my hand at breeding or just buying a bumble bee, which they had. However I was so turned off by being completely snubbed I left

My question is, do buy from places like this or go straight to and from a breeder. Do you get a similar reaction as I did, or did you find them helpful and friendly?

i've found in reptile shops the staff tend to,NOT want to badger/smother you so leave you to look around,then approach the staff in your own time

i'm sure they get lots of people coming in for JUST a look at the cool reptiles,so they bide their time to see if your buying or just looking mate

cheers shaun

[KORBIN5895]

Lol. You old bawbag.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Lol. You old bawbag.

^^^^^
" ya auld bawbag "

if your going to slag folk off in scottish,get ALL the words correct

yer a bit of a " TADGER " yerself mate

cheers shaun

P.S.....RESCUE.....!!!

[AaronRiot]

: popcorn :

As for the OP, any small shop purchase reptile or otherwise I make depends on the service. Good service and HONESTY and not pushing the sale for the $ and you'll have my business for life. Any shadyness and I will make sure others know. Neutral, I'll probably leave as well.

EXPOS ARE GARBAGE. They spread disease. They encourage impulse buys. They encourage breeders to get in it for the $. They treat the animals horribly.

If you want to see some cool herps go to a zoo.

It a load of crap that EVERY table has AND USES hand sanitizer. Last one I was at near Toronto I saw VERY LITTLE USED. And baby amazon tree boas flailed around like spaghetti. And balls sitting in their own feces. Oh and a lot of breeders b*tching about prices and not being able to get by and blah blah blah. I walked out LIVID.

Oh my point. I wouldn't allow 50 pairs of sanitizer coated hands touch my animal. That cant be healthy.

Oh speaking of health, Ive yet to see a show bin WITH a water dish.

+1 Originally Posted by KORBIN5895 View Post
I really find it annoying the way people throw the word rescue around

[jaleely]

OKay, i lol'd

but, good points. I have never bought online, and i have to say we got our first snake at a show. I was perfectly happy wandering around seeing all the animals thinking "oh they get to go back to enclosures at the end of the day, they're fine"...
I went to another show, and pretty much didn't get it until then...when i brought home a healthy looking python who had been extremely dehydrated. It was the first day of the show, so i hadn't thought about all the travel time, and that most of the people there don't take care of the animals. To be honest, it just didn't occur to me that people would want to, or let them BE mistreated. Once again, just because i wouldn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
That snake got to my house and drank and drank and drank...and had a huge urate stone i had to help it remove.
Never again!!!
I've been lucky and haven't had mites. I DO use sanitizer, and actually i never had held anything except what i was buying. I just lucked out, really.

Now we go to rescue...Ten dollars at the pound gets you a snake of any kind, if it's there. I haven't bought a snake since knowing this. I just can't justify going out and getting something when there are cast offs right down the road that aren't being taken care of.

Sure, there are some snakes i want that i can't get at the pound...a female hognose...another flame kenyan sand boa...some garter snakes.....

I may get some, some day. Right now i'm not getting anything because i don't have the room and if something was wrong with it, i couldn't afford vet care...and i don't want to risk the ones i have. A while ago i posted on "my lesson in restraint" because i *really* wanted to go get some snakes i knew were at the pound and take care of them.

Anyway...rescue is taking the animal out of bad conditions and placing it where it can thrive. I've done that with six various animals so far, and i love it. It makes it very hard to justify to myself getting anything new.

I flat out refuse to get into ball pythons and support that whole thing. Good lord.
I'll plug someone else's website here...CDN blood because this is HILARIOUS and so true.

Todd Rants About...

Hope you don't mind, bud. But that cracked me up...and made me sad/mad *lol* i was already on this bandwagon though.

Anyway, for a ball python...just adopt. There are so many out there that need homes. There's no reason to go to a breeder or a store. I hope you find one, OP!