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Old 08-28-12, 02:11 PM   #1
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Lets see some milks.

Here are a few of mine.




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Those are neat looking
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Old 08-28-12, 02:19 PM   #3
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Love the colors on these.. what type of milk are they?
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Love the colors on these.. what type of milk are they?
These are hypo pueblan milks.
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Looks like a Ninja
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Old 08-28-12, 05:02 PM   #9
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Re: Lets see some milks.

Here's a few of mine.

Kansas Central Plains Milksnake ( Double het hypo and anery)

Christmas Mountain New Mexican Milksnake

Apricot Pueblan

Anery Central Plains Milksnake (Son to father above)

Hypo Pueblan

Mazatlan, Sinaloa. Sinaloan Milksnake

Spotted Mexican Milksnake


That's just a few, more to come later.
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Re: Lets see some milks.

Nice stuff once again Pete! I really like those Hypo pueblans. I have been working on producing some Hypo Oreo's. Here's a female I produced last year, and I was lucky enough to produce a nice male this year.(No pic of him yet)


Those Tplus nelsoni are killer too. I have a few from this year. I should have some multi hets also (Splotched,hypoE,and patternless)
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Nice stuff once again Pete! I really like those Hypo pueblans. I have been working on producing some Hypo Oreo's. Here's a female I produced last year, and I was lucky enough to produce a nice male this year.(No pic of him yet)


Those Tplus nelsoni are killer too. I have a few from this year. I should have some multi hets also (Splotched,hypoE,and patternless)
We really are into the same snakes Jimmy, great photos, the rocky back ground is a good idea.

Whats your view on the splotched gene, do you think in came from Nelsoni first, then breeders put it into the Sinaloan milk ?
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We really are into the same snakes Jimmy, great photos, the rocky back ground is a good idea.

Whats your view on the splotched gene, do you think in came from Nelsoni first, then breeders put it into the Sinaloan milk ?

Thanks, we sure do like the same stuff. To be truthfully honest, I haven't done much homework on which one came first or how the gene was actually produced. I see it as the splotched gene came from the L.t.nelsoni first. The patternless gene came from L.t.sinaloae first. It was the next little project I was going to work on to get all the information and timeline together. I will let you know what I come up with.
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Here are a few of mine.
What locality is this? It's breath taking!
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It's a splotched Sinaloan......I don't know if there is a "locality" known for them.....

Captive Sinaloans originated mainly in Mazatlan and Cosala, Mexico.....
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It's a splotched Sinaloan......I don't know if there is a "locality" known for them.....

Captive Sinaloans originated mainly in Mazatlan and Cosala, Mexico.....
Just to touch on this. Some of the original L.t.sinaloae that were brought in by Randy Limburg and a few others were not only collected in the two previous areas mentioned. Actually, most L.t.sinaloae you see in the hobby today come from a large stretch of real estate covered by these guys in the 1980's. They traveled Hwy 150 and Hwy 15 between Mazatlan and Culiacan and also towns in between. It is probably just safe to say that they where collected within the state of Sinaloa. From Mazatlan north west to Culiacan and from La Cruz north east to Cosala.

The Cosala that we see in the hobby today are just a line bred look from original animals that were collected by Lloyd Lemke and a line that was brought in by Don Wilson of 7 Generations. I cannot get any specific locale data on either of the lines except that they were from that area. So to be truthfully honest I consider them to be generic. They definitely are some of the prettiest and brightest in the hobby today.

The Mazatlan L.t.sinaloae that I have, originated from Jim Nyham in the late 1970's and was collected just north of Mazatlan, Sinaloae. This line stayed pure and was not bred into any other lines as there was 3 breeders before me that kept good data and never introduced any other line. These are one of two solid locale lines that we have in the hobby.(that I kow of) The other line is actually from Durango, MX and was collected 5 miles south of the Sinaloa border on a ranch.

A little more detailed information for you, John.
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