site revamp. good job

[DragnDrop]

There isn't one moderator who gets paid for their services. It's voluntary.
Jason, you think we mods are on a power trip just because we try to keep the peace around here when certain people start flaming other members? And now we're getting paid to do this? Give your head a shake, wake up to reality, will you? It's voluntary. It's to keep things running smoothly. If you have a problem with the mods, mention it to the admin, don't try to work it into a discussion about the new site software.

[BoidsUnlimited]

Honestly I'm just happy we have the knowledge here that most places don't. And the moderators...sure they get testy and such but its for our own good. I mean I KNOW I'm not fun to deal with, but I'm a kid, I get excited with animals, I post alot. But in a way I've matured like the Water for example. I rethought it, no way can I care for such an animal at this age. Now I'm getting a Beardie instead. I appreciate the direction a ton but sorta wish it were done without noting my past.

So if you look at the BIG picture, theres worse. I mean what if the owner decided, "eh...I dont feel like paying for this anymore." Then we'd have nowhere to complain. So I say instead of saying how ICKY or gross it is, offer suggestions (which I know some have done.)

Just my opinion

Thanks,

Don Meyer

[Jamie]

You can put me on the hate list...I have been coming to this site for years and this change is totally unnessisary, out of the blue and in all honesty this site has taken a huge step back. Who likes this change that has been here a couple years?

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...DON"T FIX IT

[BoidsUnlimited]

Originally Posted by Jamie

You can put me on the hate list...I have been coming to this site for years and this change is totally unnessisary, out of the blue and in all honesty this site has taken a huge step back. Who likes this change that has been here a couple years?

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...DON"T FIX IT

Nobody makes you type in "ssnakess.com" and post....

Sorry that sounds rude but its just the truth, and the truth hurts.

[Jamie]

No kidding, I know I type it in but seriously how many people think that this has been an improvement? Do you?

As to your previous post about the big picture, this is how I see it. We get info from here myself included but when people are not happy...whether it is with the site or whatever you are going to get less and less people on here that have the knowledge that we are looking for and the site will die. I am looking for adivce when I need it from people who know what they are talking about and have been through the situation in question. I will go where they are. I have found it mostly here but I can see people (top breeders) already not posting here as much and migrating to other sites. You have to do what the customers want...that is business. I don't see site supporter by your name so who cares if you are not happy...I am a paying customer so smart bussiness minded people might listen to what we want and figure out that if they make a change and most people don't really like it then fix it. Don't sell us something short of what we want and most of us won't buy something we don't want.

I love this site but if it keep declining it won't be around.

So my question again do you like the changes

[Jamie]

Going back and reading I think invictis and reptizone best represent what I feel as well. These were people who posted a lot here before and now we see them once in a blue moon...it is people like this that we are losing that is sad.

[RepTylE]

The new look is okay I guess. I really liked the way it was though. I guess that I com from the if it ain;t broke don't fix it school.

[Tim_Cranwill]

If you don't like it, you have options, people... Here are a few inspirational points to ponder by some of the world's most forward thinkers about working in a relationship or job that isn't healthy:

W - "Widen your search for a new friend (reptile forum)." - Vic Cardon
W - "Wander around until you find a better place." - Lisa DeWitt
W - "Withhold your loyalty if this relationship seems to be slipping." Evan Carter
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R - "Represent your feelings with actions." - Dr. Phil Redwine
E - "Enroll in a new social group (reptile forum)." - Randy Vogt
P - "Pretend they are listening to you a bit longer, then realize they aren't, then leave." - Jim Brunzel
T - "Tell yourself you deserve better." - Sam Ip
I - "Imagine the names of other firms (reptile forums) that are managed properly and try them out." - Casey Gilespie
L - "Listen to your heart and look at things in a different way." - Ken Rudderham
E - "Even consider not supporting a company (reptile forum) owned by questionable entities." - Mike Patton
S - "Superior companies (reptile forums) are out there, do a (Google) search for others in your nation." - Alan Partridge
C - "Cash in your chips if you don't like the cards you're being dealt." - Tanny Apalit
A - "Act on your disappointment and find another establishment(reptile forum)." - Scott Alexander
N - "Never settle for second best…. Or fourth." - Karem Cameron
A - "Answer these questions two: What is the plural of Reptile? What is the northernmost country in North America?" - Ok, I made up that one...
D - "Do unto others as they have done unto you... abandonment anyone?" - Uncle Joey (Full House)
A - "Act now! Life is short." - Declan McManus
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C - "Conquer the empire by turning your back on it." - Solomon
O - "Open your eyes to other options (reptile forums) and go with one." - Peter Nadolny
M - "Members have the power... don't forget that." - Danny Glover

[dank7oo]

"Too much time on my hands" - Styx.

Jason

[Boakid]

I have probably been here for that long (on another account that got broke or summit) and it definitely has gone down hill, but it is still a great site, the colour change is a bit sad but it is the Admins choice.

[Tim_Cranwill]

Originally Posted by dank7oo

"Too much time on my hands" - Styx.

Jason

LMAO!
Should I be ragingly busy all the time? What's wrong with extra time on my hands??? What's everyone's hang up with having time on their hands? I guess I'll go mow my lawn... I really shouldn't be so idle. LOL!!!!

Chill out, mon... It's a long weekend.

[totally banned]

I thought Tim's post was great. I also liked Repti Zones post (wasn't sure where he was going with it at the beginning, but his true feeligs came out)

The moral of the story is, if you are wondering where the "community feel" went, or where the experienced and knowledgable people who don't mind sharing their knowledge went, read Tims post again, and come sign up. (tell them Scales Zoo sent ya)

And again I see someone mention 8000 members. That number really represents nothing good, but reflects how many people have signed up and since left for better things.

I feel sorry for all the mods on this site who have been and continue to be deceived. Yes there is evil among us, there has been for a long time.

I mean really, if many of you were sticking with this site cause of the way it looked..... and that was the best thing it had going for it...... I don't think I need to say any more.

Ryan (artist formally knoiwn as Scales Zoo)

I can be found at the site with contests and giveaways, poker nights, a relaxed and fun attitude, and a very large knowledge base where we all continue to learn.

[justinO]

Ryan, how many times have you been banned on here??? :P

Tim, your post was brilliant.

on another note related to the overall bad feeling this new software has, i've had to login about 20 freaking times already today, although i have my cookies enabled and i shouldn't have to enter my information in all the time. Whats up with that?

-Justin

[CDN-Cresties]

Originally Posted by justinO

on another note related to the overall bad feeling this new software has, i've had to login about 20 freaking times already today, although i have my cookies enabled and i shouldn't have to enter my information in all the time. Whats up with that?

-Justin

Im not experiencing this problem.

[Linds]

Originally Posted by DragnDrop

There isn't one moderator who gets paid for their services. It's voluntary.

LOL remind me again why we continue to volunteer our own time to put up with the repeated (ridiculous) accustations we get ?? I know if I were paid even a penny for all the attacks and nasty attitudes I have received, I probably would have a fat wallet... or at least more than the 13 cents that is in there now

That being said, I agree with what you have said. Feedback is always welcome, but please be constructive with it. As well as this thread is in regards to the new software, not the old, tired 'we hate those power-hungry, rollin-in-dough mods that are just trying to do their thankless job' arguement.

Change can be painful... you can stay with the site while it tries to work through it's 'growing pains', but nobody is forcing you to stay if you don't want to. Regardless, constructive input is welcome and will hopefully be taken in to consideration in working through this all. Another point to remember, people listen much better to voices that are well-spoken rather than a bunch of yelling and swearing... offer suggestions, take things in to consideration, say what you do like about this and what you don't like about that.

It would be nice if people could abide by the rules so this thread could stay open for discussion, instead of forcing it to be closed. It only does a disservice to the members of this site.

No threads or links to mature content.

No profanity or racism allowed in threads.

No political or religious discussion.

No personal messages. ie. 'so and so, empty your PM box.'

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