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Old 06-23-10, 10:26 AM   #46
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yup same horse syrup
Isn't CroFab made from sheep?
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Old 06-23-10, 03:35 PM   #47
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yah, crofab is made from sheep, because sheep anti bodies are closer to human anti bodies than horse.

Of course, given that it's made by pharmaceutical companies, it's probably no coincidence that sheep are much, much cheaper animals than horses.
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yah, crofab is made from sheep, because sheep anti bodies are closer to human anti bodies than horse.

Of course, given that it's made by pharmaceutical companies, it's probably no coincidence that sheep are much, much cheaper animals than horses.
I know that serum sickness from horse antivenoms was a very serious issue that was to be avoided at all costs so maybe it's not only because sheep are cheaper.
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Old 06-23-10, 10:49 PM   #49
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I think there will nearly always be problems anti-venom and serum sickness. I believe they linked basic allergies like hay fever and such to people who had severe problems with the anti-venom. I also believe there were a few cases where people went in anaphalactic shock because of such allergies, which can be fatal in a matter of seconds. It certainly gives you something to think about when owning hots.
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Old 06-24-10, 01:32 AM   #50
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I'm not saying that it's not safer made from sheep. It is. I just think if they could make it cheaper, but less safe, with guinea pigs or rats or third world children they would.
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Old 06-24-10, 10:05 AM   #51
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I'm not saying that it's not safer made from sheep. It is. I just think if they could make it cheaper, but less safe, with guinea pigs or rats or third world children they would.
LMFAO i wasnt expecting that last bit hahaha
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LMFAO i wasnt expecting that last bit hahaha
Nafun just gave some corporate executive an idea
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Old 06-24-10, 11:22 PM   #53
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somewhere there is some Mr. Burns-esque CEO saying "excellent" lol :P
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Old 06-25-10, 04:11 AM   #54
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All in all its very nasty to drip A/V into your vein , i think with enough research the very large keepers of Hot's & zoo's should build a little barn and raise something that's safest for humans to bang up their arm making your own properly would be a intelligent way to go in case their not doing it already. getting it threw a supplier can be kind of iffy cause like Nafun said they could be using who knows what i wont even go there. So defanging & voiding & running over little kids on bikes ya 90% of people want to pluck your teeth for bringing it up it.. BUT i can say something positive about that and that would be if you absolutely are going to get 1 anyways get from someone selling there's it would even save you 1-3rd the cost to. BUT maybe one day it will get ya!? and find out the sac rejuvenated just enough to hold and inject a few mg's into you and then your like whoa i don't feel so well oh oh. . cheers everybody!
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Old 06-25-10, 11:06 AM   #55
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How can I word this?? Oh well......

The whole concept of hacking up an animal to make it into something that nature never intended it to be is sickening.

I consider it about as humane as surgically implanting a horn onto a horse because you want a pet unicorn.

There is only one "company" in the USA that even cares enough to do the procedure properly, and you are looking at a huge bill to have it done.

It's just about the worst idea in the history of bad ideas.
I agree, if you do that.... well it's just a really bad idea!!!! Like infernalis said it would be like taking a horn and straping it to a horse and painting the horse pink, so u could say you have a Pink Unicorn as a pet! It's just cruel!
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Venomoids are created because some cowardly person wants to own a ‘venomous’ animal without the consequences. It’s like removing the wings from a bird because the owner does not want to take the chance that the animal may escape due to his or her ignorance.
The reason people want to keep venomoids is so that they can brag by free handling a potentially dangerous snake to impress your mates? Or because they just enjoy infecting unnecessary pain and disfiguration on innocent creatures for no reason?
If you thinking of getting a venomoid why not just get a corn snake.
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