A New Species Of Giant Ape?

[Brock]

Yep I've read about the coelcanth, right in southern Africa if I remember correctly? Quite a big fish too, kind of hard to miss. I was also watching this show on jellyfish one day, and they showed some video of a colony of 4 or 5 long crimson red and reddish-brown jelly fish, about 15-20 feet long and very bulky, that have only been seen that one time. I also saw a computer generated version of a giant squid, that was in theoretical adult size, and a human is basically the size of its pupil.

No doubt are there things we haven't discovered, from the 90% of the rain forests in South America to the canyons in the see that are a thousand times larger than the Grand Canyon. It's amazing.

Oh and last I heard, humans were the top predator in Africa And I mean we DID come from apes, right? It's not so far fetched.

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Something we're more familiar with:
Another thing is crested geckos, they were thought to be extinct for over a hundred years, then rediscovered in 1994. They're a pretty large gecko if you ask me and so prolific. There's thousands of them in captivity today from something that was thought to be extinct.

And also wasn't there a tribe of humans in Africa discovered in the early 90s, it had no idea of an outside world existing. I remember watching that on the news, was really cool. Another thing I'll never forget watching on the global news was in India when the Ganesh statues were drinking milk from spoons. That was in 1998, and THAT was cool!

-Brock

[SpiderLord]

ok here is my opinion..for one...lions arnt as intelligent as apes...apes can wield weapons..and they are VERY muscular...secondly i will state that no..giant squid are not that big...everywhere ive looked their eyes are the size of dinner plates not people...and for the third and final statement, i believe a lot of things are out there that we havnt discovered

[SCReptiles]

I have not worked with large primates hand to hand as of yet. I have worked with small primates and big cats. There is no doubt that an adult loin is a formable opponent for any animal, but big cats are not indestructible. They tend to lay on their backs as a defensive posture. If this ape had enough strength to hit the loin on the head, the skull would crush as it would be fixed against the ground and could not give with the blow. Attacking gorillas raise their hands in the air and come down. I can see a powerful enough ape killing a loin.

Second point, as anyone considered this could be a hybrid chimp/gorilla?

[rattekonigin]

I'm very skeptical about the story that this ape could kill a lion...mainly because it's been stated that the ape inhabits the congo (which is mainly dense jungle) and lions live out in the open on the savannah...so, how would these two animals ever meet, much less get into a brawl?

[sneaky_boa]

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I very well could be), but aren't most large non-human primated PRIMARILY vegetarian? Omnivorous, yes, but not to the point where killing large mammals for meat is required. Why would a primarily vegetarian species need to kill a lion for food? I've no doubt that it could.....but why would it want to?

[Shad0w]

Sneaky_boa,

If you look at chimps, they hunt in groups to take down other primates / animals for a meat source.. and they do it very deliberately...

So... who knows

[BAZ]

I believe a large ape such as a gorilla could kill a lion. Sheer strength combined with intelligence combined with the ability to grasp combined with the ability to use tool and weapons if need be. Add to that the thick skin and fur that would protect the animal. Its not so far fetched at all if you ask me. Its true that the lion oes have weapons such as its claws and teeth but a gorilla could easily break a lions back, neck or ribs with deadly blows. Being able to grasp the lion in its arms and hands puts the gorilla at an advantage.

[JAdkins2451]

Or to settle this. The discovery channel has a show that the computer generate the strength of 2 animals. And then simulates the fight. 1 episode but a couger/mountian lion Vs. A brown bear. The bear won. If you compare the size of a mountian lion to the size of an african lion the should be pretty close. And the size of a brown bear to a gorilla the should come close to size and weight. now factor in the intelligence of the gorilla. Who do you think would win.

[Shad0w]

Also, include the fact that chimps hunt in groups... I really dont think a single isolated lion would have a chance against 3 giant apes...