Defanging/ Devenomizing

[infernalis]

A false report of venomous and giant pythons out to kill the neighborhood.

The hatred runs deep between us and the neighbor.

[Will0W783]

I know...I can understand if you've been bitten or are trying to protect your family, but in most cases a snake would rather escape than waste its venom on you. I know there are cases where snakes are particularly aggressive, or your child is too close and killing it is the only way you can think of at the time. I was referring more to people who take a hatchet or shovel to every garter snake, milksnake, etc that they find in their yard.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by Will0W783

I know...I was referring more to people who take a hatchet or shovel to every garter snake, milksnake, etc that they find in their yard.

I hate those people, see it frequently.

[RandyRhoads420]

I don't want this because i think it would e cool to have a "pretty and dangerous pet" The point is so it's not dangerous....if there was a cobra that was safe I would just go with that...and I dont mean a FWC...

[Lankyrob]

Any venomous wild animal is gonna be dangerous for the whole of its life. I dont think there will ever be a "safe" venomous snake.

[spankygaaarge]

i appologize Randyrhoads, think i sounded a little bit bitchy, but i wasnt meaning to be, just trying to explain that there are reasons for killing snakes, some justified some not, but like rob said it doesnt matter what venomous snake you have its gonna be dangerous , but i think what makes them Beautiful, is the fact that they're dangerous, and maybe you should just enjoy them from afar........ (unless you get trained on how to handle em etc etc etc) then you wouldnt have to alter them

[Will0W783]

Great point Terri!

[infernalis]

Usually whenever this subject gets brought up, no matter what forum it happens to be in, emotions will run high.....

most all the seasoned snake keepers I have encountered are totally against this form of surgery to alter the snakes.

[percey39]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Usually whenever this subject gets brought up, no matter what forum it happens to be in, emotions will run high.....

most all the seasoned snake keepers I have encountered are totally against this form of surgery to alter the snakes.

I agree infernalis. Most people i know who keep hots aswell get very fired up about this subject. We are a very touchy bunch, maybe its because we are always on the short end of the stick in every other discussion or maybe we are just nutter's plain and simple lol.

I never believe killing a snake is the only option. I would relocate any snake free of charge in my area if it was only going to be killed by someone who is driven by fear or too lazy to look through a phone book to try and call. This is not directed at anyone on here, there are lot of pathetic people here who like to brag about killing snakes and i have had enough of it.

[Terence]

I prefer them fully loaded.

[venomousluva]

You can buy A/V for around 200$ USD per vial and yes you will need around 7-10 vials per bite but its been noted some taking up to 30 vials that's just rough but IMO i would get 10 vials minimal = around 2000$ and finding a safe source to order it from is a whole another problem if it isn't stored properly it goes bad and it will take allot of convincing to a doctor to inject you with your own a/v even if its good and will save your life 2000$ is very cheap to live to see another day and yes that's what i pay i'm sure there is other manufactures out there selling these vials for 2-5 times that amount so it all comes down to research then more research and even more research take your time like they say speed kills...and so do hots when you got no A/V ... keep it safe cause 1 mistake could be your last . Take care.

[emseeKAY]

unfortunately people buy or catch hots for the novelty of having something bad *** and end up getting tagged because they dont have the proper provisions. that being said there are many who also do the right thing and take proper care of themselves and the animals I.e. buying anti-venin etc. however, how many people who take proper precautions do you hear of in the news? zero. its always the idiots who get on the news and give everyone else a bad rep. personally i think if you cant handle the animal "fully loaded" so to speak, you shouldn't own it. we don't rip a dogs teeth out because it can bite us... nor should we to a cobra, rattler, taipan, whatever.

also is there any difference between anti-venin, and anti-venom? and how does it work? lol

[BlindOne]

Originally Posted by emseeKAY

also is there any difference between anti-venin, and anti-venom? and how does it work? lol

I've always thought it was two names for the same thing, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[emseeKAY]

Originally Posted by BlindOne

I've always thought it was two names for the same thing, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

i'm wondering if it is the way they fabricate it to counteract the venom injected by the snake, kinda like lava and magma? lol if that makes sense...

[Nafun]

They're regional. anti-venin and anti-venom mean the same thing.

anti-venin is from the original french, anti-venom is the anglicized version.