biggest snake species in history?? - Page 3

SCReptiles · 10-16-04, 06:14 PM

Ha ha, well, what in the world makes either of you think that I care what you believe? I shared the documented information, you can choose to reject it. Doesn’t bother me. When one lacks knowledge, one is ignorant, which has no shame. When one is presented information and rejects it, that is known as predominate ignorance. =) that is shameful, feel free to be predominately ignorant if you so desire.

Dr. Antfarm · 10-17-04, 12:52 AM

All I asked is where exactly it was documented. If it is verified then I will gladly believe it. You really can't expect people to just accept things as true without providing some kind of proof. But hey if you want to get pissy about it, that's your right...

SCReptiles · 10-17-04, 03:44 PM

Call it pissy if you so desire. I look at it like this, I have dedicated a great deal of my life and wealth to the study of reptiles. I put my health and life on the line when I perform venom extractions for researchers and for educational talks. I am offended when I put forth credible information and my information is rejected by people with not a single shred of evidence to rebut what I have said. I think the basic primus was “well, I would have lied if I killed a big snake, so therefore everyone else is lying too.” Ok, you want documentation. Lets start with the books that I happen to have on the shelf right now, Giant Reptiles by Sherman A Minton, © 1973. Page 197 to be exact. Quote: “…One measuring 9.8 meters (about 32 feet) was shot near Bingerville, Ivory Coast, in 1932.” The Guinness Book of World Records 1978 edition page 89. Ok, and for other books I have gathered the information but do not have in front of me. Tales of Giant Snakes by Henderson and Murphy © 1997. General Care and Maintainace of Burmese and other Pythons by Philippe de Vosjoli. I hope I have made my point, these are all creditable sources that back the statements I have made. If either Dr Antfarm or JimmyDavid can produce any evidence to contrary, I will be happy to read it. If you can not, I would expect you to recant your statements. Thank you for your time. Professor Samuel C Hurd, BS.

Dr. Antfarm · 10-17-04, 04:03 PM

Thank you. I still have a bit of a hard time believing tha story of a 32ft. Afrock, but didn't you say in a previous post that the messurment was never verified? But either way given your very hostile attitude regarding someone disagreeing with you, this really isn't a subject I care to discuss any further.

SCReptiles · 10-17-04, 04:16 PM

Present a debate based on some type of fact and I will be happy to discuss it with you. Denounce my research based on nothing, and you can expect a hostile reply. I don’t think that is out of line at all.

JimmyDavid · 10-17-04, 06:51 PM

You have it all wrong, ScReptiles. The one who doubts doesn't have to present proff of nothing, is the one who claims that needs to do so. Besides, nobody is doubting you, if that much you can say we doubt the ones who came up with these "facts".

Another thing. I don't see how doubting something (wich you called rejecting information) makes one ignorant at all. What are these forums for, if not for sharing opinions and discussing points of view? Ignorance would be accepting everything you're told blindly and lacking a self opinion.

SCReptiles · 10-17-04, 10:04 PM

No, that is not correct. I posted an excerpt from my web site, which is a culmination of my research. If you wish to come behind me and discredit my findings, then I expect you to have a factual basis for doing so. Making the statement that I am wrong based on the assumption that you would lie, so therefor, these people lied is ridiculous and insulting. When I disagree with someone’s statement I do so very respectfully and I list the facts that I base my opinion on. That is a correct protocol for debate.

BigBADace · 10-17-04, 10:18 PM

Come on guys take off the gloves and shake hands!

Hey Jimmy do u still have that pic of the huge conda? i'd love to see it!

JimmyDavid · 10-18-04, 10:59 AM

Fine with me.
SCReptiles, i respect your experience and credibility and wish to continue this debate no more. It's all just a matter of opinion, anyway.

As for the pic. It's from a Nathional geographic magazine. I'll try to scan it.

SCReptiles · 10-18-04, 09:26 PM

JimmyDavid · 10-20-04, 06:49 AM

Those are good examples of big Anacondas, but the one i'm talking about is much bigger than any of the above.

SCReptiles · 10-20-04, 08:58 PM

ok, you have my interest now. i would like to see it.

LeoGeckoRetic · 10-22-04, 12:54 PM

I think it was like up until the 1970's or 80's that most zoologist swore that the Panda and Gorrilla didn't exist but they sure do so i think it is entirely possible to find something huge that hasn't been discovered.

E.T.

JimmyDavid · 10-26-04, 10:14 AM

It's hard to scan the pic i was talking about. Maybe you can track the magazine and check it. It's national geographic magazine - august edition (2003). Probably the largest anaconda ever photographed...

mudflats · 11-04-04, 10:23 AM

In my opinion i think, that just thinking there arnt "beasts" out there is ignorant. Length is not limited in the amazon and other rainforests. Places have yet to be discovered, and we have documented tribesman,pigmys, bush people or whatever you want to call them...Eating dinosaur like creatures. We have asked them what they have eaten to survive and the creatures they describe are what we perseve to be Dinosaurs, as we know them today. I do not know where text can be found on this, but i for sure know its true. True being that they described what we think are dinosaurs, yet they might be describing a large crocodilian.(?) I can probably almost promise that in the next 20-30 years we will stir up a large creature in the amazon etc.. The path that these forests are going down, we will eventually discover everything of large poportion. The fact of the matter is, No one can say they aren't giant snakes exceeding 40-50 feet, and no one can say there is...without proof. Because it is all unknown. But i believe there are many things this world has to offer and discover yet, we just havent found. Here is a photograph aswell as text of this snake skin, i know skin stretches...but just thought i would share it.

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Text that follows it::The man holding this skin is six feet tall, the indians that killed it to save 2 children's lives call it a 'small' one, the interior of Guyana is 95% untouched and all the tribes in these remote areas boast of encounters with snakes well over 30 feet in length.
For those willing to spend the 14 days required to get into these far out locales the opportunity exists to photograph or video one of these giant serpents, you will not be allowed to kill one of these full grown monsters for they are religious icons in the native cultures.

There is only one place that caters to cryptozoologist travelers in South America, it is also the only native indian run entity that can by-pass the red-tape and no-go hoopla - and take you safely in & out of this unknown and officialy restricted areas.