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02-14-13, 01:01 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
Sorry, I thought this was a Savannah monitor. Either way, it really doesn`t matter what they feed on in nature in the sense that just because they might not find a particular prey item in the wild they won`t or shouldn`t take it in captivity?
Crawfish are an excellent food to offer, the squid shouldn`t cause problems either, can you give an idea of the % of the items you`re currently feeding?
As far as the bloating, perhaps there`s a slight blockage somewhere, how long has it been this way? Photos might still help a little.
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02-14-13, 01:03 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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No, it's not..
who's willing to feed Beardies, skinks and Ackies to their monitor?
I would drop the squid for sure, but I know a lot of people feeding crayfish to monitors with no problems whatsoever.
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Im sure many feed many different items to monitors but currently many may never see those affects with feeding several other prey as its sad but true not many these days keep they pets long term as things change in their life or other its rare to see a keeper keeping most pets mainly monitors as they require the most work over a few years so we may never know whats the affect of other prey items. but with anything heat comes into play.long term we don't know how long to affect a monitor and how many will take a dead reptile to a vet to see what was the cause. Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.
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02-14-13, 01:07 PM
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he gets plenty of exercise and i know its gas not fat because when he farts his stomach returns to normal. He digs constantly and moves about constantly and has one hour a day out of his set up. When he has his hour out I will try and get as good a pic as I can.
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Hi, can you define "plenty of excercise" (as in how many hundreds/thousands of metres a day the animal travels)?
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02-14-13, 01:11 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.
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Agreed, I preach that every day.
"Keep them hot, and you can feed them nails" - care to guess who said that?
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02-14-13, 01:12 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Rodents has a proven track record to be best over all.
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Hi, I think rodents are an excellent food for many (most?) species, but not the only "best" for all.
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02-14-13, 01:14 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Hi, I think rodents are an excellent food for many (most?) species, but not the only "best" for all.
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I'd like to see a V. kingorum eat a mouse. 
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02-14-13, 01:20 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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Agreed, I preach that every day.
"Keep them hot, and you can feed them nails" - care to guess who said that?
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i think some of us know who
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02-14-13, 01:25 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
I use this on newborn CB snakes with their first meals and also to adults that are having bloating or vomiting problems. Also a good idea to use it following oral antibiotic therapy or deworming. It's not something you need to give them regularly though.
PetAG Bird Bene-Bac Bird & Reptile Probiotic Gel, 15g Syringe - Pet Supplies - Bird Supplies - Health Care
Might help your monitor with the bloating. If he's not foraging outside in the dirt for worms and whatnot he might just be a bit deficient on beneficial gut bacteria.
I know this is a controversial thing and a lot of people question the science behind it but I've had positive results using it. I have seen it cure chronic vomiting and bloating.
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02-14-13, 01:27 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
Ive always fed rodents and insects to all my monitors for 15+ years of keeping and breeding. If rodents and insects work why change it and offer other prey is my thought.
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02-14-13, 01:29 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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I would be more concerned to fix the problem than offering meds and un do stress.
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02-14-13, 01:33 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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I would be more concerned to fix the problem than offering meds and un do stress.
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That's a probiotic gel; Concinnus is suggesting that the monitor's intestinal flora is at a subpar level. IF that is the issue, then the gel would be fixing the problem rather than simply treating symptoms
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02-14-13, 01:35 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
It's not a medication. It's live bacteria. It's select species of microrganisms that live in the guts of birds and reptiles and are known to aid in digestion. There's really no risk. If it works, then fine. If it doesn't, it won't do any harm either.
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02-14-13, 01:39 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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That's a probiotic gel; Concinnus is suggesting that the monitor's intestinal flora is at a subpar level. IF that is the issue, then the gel would be fixing the problem rather than simply treating symptoms 
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Why that can be true and be right i always have to question why is it at subpar levels if it is the case
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02-14-13, 01:41 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
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It's not a medication. It's live bacteria. It's select species of microrganisms that live in the guts of birds and reptiles and are known to aid in digestion. There's really no risk. If it works, then fine. If it doesn't, it won't do any harm either.
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Ive never had to use any of the sorts on a monitor if their kept hot enough and supported they can digest nearly anything.
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02-14-13, 01:42 PM
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Re: monitor has gas?
This is all news to me, I have never had to supplement or medicate my Monitors.
With the exception of one, and that ended badly.
Prevention is THE best medicine.
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