Seriously need advice again... - Page 2

Swany · 02-10-12, 08:14 AM

One ate the other.

Gungirl · 02-10-12, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue628

What happened while they were housed together to cause this?

Nothing happened. Most snakes do not like to be with other snakes. If they where fighting over the hot spot or a good hide one might eat the other to eliminate competition. Also if they where fed and then left alone one could have still been in feed mode and decided the other one looked like a good meal.

KORBIN5895 · 02-10-12, 09:51 AM

I personally would like to talk to the person who owned those snakes. That is the only picture I have ever seen to support this.

Gungirl · 02-10-12, 10:38 AM

A guy I know that deals with a breeder a few states over has seen first hand several cases of a snake eating another. I don't question it at all...

KORBIN5895 · 02-10-12, 05:11 PM

So this breeder has seen his snakes eat each other on several occasions?

Trent · 02-10-12, 05:27 PM

I have seen one snake have another snake have way down its throat.Pet store wizard decided it would be a good idea to feed two boas in the same tank.Came back twenty min later the other snake was half swallowed.

BarelyBreathing · 02-10-12, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trent

I have seen one snake have another snake have way down its throat.Pet store wizard decided it would be a good idea to feed two boas in the same tank.Came back twenty min later the other snake was half swallowed.

I have seen similar posts with this a few times. Some included pictures. It was pretty disturbing.

Terranaut · 02-10-12, 05:45 PM

I have chosen to co habitate my Boas. PERMENENTLY!! But I do feed them seperately.
I looked into this a great deal before going this route.
It's fine to house breeding boas like this but I have no idea about any other breed. Also I would not put 2 same sex snakes together. I certainly wouldn't put a burm with a retic. Just sounds wrong.

KORBIN5895 · 02-10-12, 06:06 PM

I am interested to see how that goes Dan.

Terranaut · 02-10-12, 06:18 PM

So far so good. They cuddle , they spend time apart , they lock regularly and all seems great. I will pull Mack out for Eva's delivery and a couple days after but thats it. I will post a thread on co-habitation of boas after a year or so of doing it.

Will0W783 · 02-10-12, 06:30 PM

Terranaut, I understand you have your decision, but it really isn't in the snakes' best interest to be housed together year-round. Snakes do not "cuddle" - they might coil together if there is one optimal spot in the cage or for warmth if the cage temps are not high enough, but they do not develop emotional attachment to each other.
Also, from a breeding standpoint....snakes that are housed together permanently are less likely to breed. They seem to get used to one another's presence and it doesn't spark a breeding response even when they are cooled.
If you ask any successful breeder or seasoned keeper, they will tell you it's not a good idea to house two snakes together year-round. It's just not healthy for them long-term.

Terranaut · 02-10-12, 07:07 PM

I did a lot of reading about breeding boas long before I bought my 2nd snake. The debate between cohabitation and seperating them is just like the frozen/ live feed debate. I am watching for any signs of non acceptance or stressing from doing this. I chose to do it because I felt it best for them. If they were my carpets or gophers or balls I doubt I would do this. Some of the more famous American breeders choose this method. I have another enclosure that I keep my male in when feeding and sometimes the day after. I actually have 1 enclosure and 1 tub for every snake I have so its not to save space.
I still appreciate your comment and after a year or so I will rethink it and post my findings. If it doesn't work out I will seperate them and try again next year.
So boas yes but other breeds no for me anyway.
No disrespect intended here at all , just giving you some background info as to how I came to this decision.

**lady_bug87** · 02-10-12, 10:58 PM

I house my Lacertas together all year I know its different because they're lizards but I figured I would weigh in. If I remove my female for inspection or whatever, my male gets frantic. I moved her out of their enclosure for a couple days, my male refused food which they NEVER do, and he paced back and forth until I put her back. They however do sleep together or she will sit on top of him (she is 1/2 his size)

I dont know if they bond I doubt it I think its more that she is a constant part of his habitat and her not being there stresses him right out.

aj099 · 02-11-12, 12:20 AM

I agree with Terranaut.

I have co habed my boa`s for quite some time now close to 4 month`s
i check for any sign`s of anything but both snake`s are very healthy eat all the time seperate of course.shed with no problem`s i have plenty of differently basking spot`s and hide`s so they have there choice`s . i have never noticed any sign of agression what so ever.

but am ready to serperate if need be.

Jay · 02-11-12, 12:30 AM

Has no one done any research before buying a snake?
Every one who is choosing to keep two snake in one enclosure needs to realize that keeping a solitary animal with another animal is wrong, unless your breeding. Snakes do not cuddle, or play. I hate seeing people asking questions and then ignoring the correct answers.

^^ excludes garters