Meet Vern - Page 2

percey39 · 10-17-10, 08:48 PM

Nice, thats when you know they are good feeders.

presspirate · 10-17-10, 10:38 PM

Thanks all for the help and great comments. To celebrate his "Liberation" we listened to Men at Work and Cat Empire on the way home.

shaunyboy · 10-18-10, 08:12 AM

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he ate it!

carpets eat for fun mate especially coastals

your going to have with him mate awsome snakes to work with

the men from down under ?

cheers shaun

Will0W783 · 10-18-10, 09:45 AM

Poor fellow is definitely underweight...don't you hate when people think they can underfeed their snakes to keep the size down? It doesn't work, you just end up with thin, unhealthy, long snakes instead of fat and happy long snakes. When I got my SD retic, she was 6 feet long and had been getting fed 4 mice every week to keep her size down. At her size they were like toothpicks. She now gets two large rats every other week and has grown 2 feet and filled out to a healthy, but still slender, weight. I've also seen people go the other extreme and blow up snakes like blimps.

presspirate · 10-18-10, 11:44 AM

The thing that gets me, is that both the guy and his girlfriend each made it a point to tell me that the snake will ONLY eat live MICE. I offered him the large f/t rat and he took it and gulped it down with no worries whatsoever. I was like, "You people didn't even try!"

Also as I mentioned before, his cage conditions were deplorable

But I'm just happy as can be with him, he fits in nicely with the rest of my collection. Hopefully I'll see him filling out after a couple of feedings.

kenchenzo · 10-18-10, 02:36 PM

nice one mate.

presspirate · 10-22-10, 05:07 PM

Snapped a few pics of his back today. May help with his identification. He's pretty calm and very active. I took him out and he was all over the place... and me. I'm still thinking straight coastal. But someone with more experience may see something that I don't.

Xanafein · 10-30-10, 01:16 AM

regardless of what exactly vern is he is a beautiful snake, thanks for saving him from deplorable conditions

Feebo · 10-30-10, 02:37 AM

His face doesn`t look right for a coastal I don`t think, I`d say he definatly not diamond so that leaves jag sibling for my vote

Vern is a great name! It`s Sephinflames I`d think about changing... LOL

I`d have to agree about the weight, they do tend to atretch out before filling out....

marvelfreak · 10-30-10, 04:49 PM

I am with Feebo and Shauny after looking at a ton of pics i think it's a Jag sibling.

presspirate · 10-30-10, 05:56 PM

Thanks guys for your expertise. Now can somebody explain Jag Sibling to me. and everyone else who might have no idea. From what I have been able to glean from the inter googles A jag sibling is a normal coastal without the jag genes. Does that sum it up?

marvelfreak · 10-30-10, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by presspirate

Thanks guys for your expertise. Now can somebody explain Jag Sibling to me. and everyone else who might have no idea. From what I have been able to glean from the inter googles A jag sibling is a normal coastal without the jag genes. Does that sum it up?

That correct, but sibling sometime do have unique color or pattern compared to a normal coastal. Just not the jag gene.

shaunyboy · 11-08-10, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by presspirate

Thanks guys for your expertise. Now can somebody explain Jag Sibling to me. and everyone else who might have no idea. From what I have been able to glean from the inter googles A jag sibling is a normal coastal without the jag genes. Does that sum it up?

the thing that causes the most confusion imo is the jag part

when you put a coastal jaguar with say a jungle

the jaguar gene is a co dominant gene mutation

in theory you would get 50% of the clutch turning out jungle jags the rest would be siblings

a snake is either a jag or it isnt there are no percentages with jags.its either a jag or not.

the siblings in this case would be reffered to as jungle jag siblings

the jags would be called 50% jungle jaguars

50% from the jungle influence

50% from the coastal influence

that aside it would also have 100% jaguar influence from carrying the jag gene which is recognised by the pattern mutation

if you were to put one of these offspring with another jungle they would produce 75% jungle jags and 75% jungle jag siblings

the 75% part would be reffering to the amount of jungle influence in the breeding the other 25% would be the coastal influence

the jaguar part would be reffering to the jag gene they carried which would show visually in the jag pattern they had on them.

the siblings would be just normal carpets with 75% jungle influence and 25% coastal influence.

so when thinking jags as said thee are no percentages of jag it is a jag or it aint.

hope thats not written to fuddled up to understand mate.i have problems when trying to write the jag thing down

cheers shaun

presspirate · 11-08-10, 01:32 PM

I am confused. Genetics confuse me. I have no plans to breed him, but if I were to breed him with say another jag sib, what would I get? What if I bread him to a Jag?

marvelfreak · 11-08-10, 04:13 PM

That i am not sure of. I would think a coastal sib x sib, and sib x jag some sweet jag i would think, but i am not sure.