Timor monitor questions - Page 4

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 04:41 PM

I took their enclosures with me, they were in them 50% of the time at least, Chomper spent most of the days cruising around at his digression, mostly basking > chasing critters > basking > swimming > basking etc... He did what he wanted at his own pace, with me keeping a close eye on him.
I agree with Terranaut, there is a time and place for everything.

murrindindi · 02-27-13, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stephanbakir

I took their enclosures with me, they were in them 50% of the time at least, Chomper spent most of the days cruising around at his digression, mostly basking > chasing critters > basking > swimming > basking etc... He did what he wanted at his own pace, with me keeping a close eye on him.
I agree with Terranaut, there is a time and place for everything.

Hi, I`d just like to ask if it was late in the day when the some of the photos were taken, as it seems to be quite dark?

ilovemypets1988 · 02-27-13, 04:51 PM

i agree with stephanbakir on this 1 as quite frankly, taking his reptiles to that event is no different than taking them to am expo, infact id go as far to say that it would stress the reptiles more at an expo because of all the different species, sex`s, etc, not to mention the fact that it is potentially alot more harming as anything could be contracted.
atleast at the show where stephan took his reptiles was a place to take them and people obviously enjoyed.

**Aaron_S** · 02-27-13, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988

i agree with stephanbakir on this 1 as quite frankly, taking his reptiles to that event is no different than taking them to am expo, infact id go as far to say that it would stress the reptiles more at an expo because of all the different species, sex`s, etc, not to mention the fact that it is potentially alot more harming as anything could be contracted.
atleast at the show where stephan took his reptiles was a place to take them and people obviously enjoyed.

Wait? What?

You're trying to say that my snakes in a simple display case care that there's a corn snake at the other end of the hall and that it may be of the opposite sex? You've never been to an expo, have you?

On top of that, no one goes to a reptile expo not expecting them to be there so it's a completely different situation.

So Stephan, you brought your savannah's 8x4x4 with all that good soil/sand for making burrows on a trip? Interesting.

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 05:09 PM

It was a 7X3X2 but yeh, I did. - the proper soil depth, he only had about 6 inches of soil on that trip, simply because it wasn't reasonable to transport that much weight.

Also, I advertised that I was bringing them in advance, every1 knew what to expect, I also wasn't in their face about it, if they wanted to see them they could... otherwise they could avoid em.

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 05:15 PM

If you have facebook, the photos are here. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...6710396&type=3
It's a 96 hour party, it doesn't stop. Photos were taken at all hours of the day. (might be some mild nudity in a few of the photos, but I'm pretty sure I removed the "inappropriate" ones

murrindindi · 02-27-13, 05:25 PM

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If you have facebook, the photos are here.
It's a 96 hour party, it doesn't stop. Photos were taken at all hours of the day. (might be some mild nudity in a few of the photos, but I'm pretty sure I removed the "inappropriate" ones

Thanks for the link, I was concerned that the temps might be quite cool late in the day, so how long was the animal outside it`s enclosure, and how did it thermoregulate?

infernalis · 02-27-13, 08:34 PM

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I'm pretty sure I removed the "inappropriate" ones

That sucks... bring on the skin!

stephanbakir · 02-27-13, 05:30 PM

It had sun + shade, it was the middle of summer here and in the middle of a heat wave so heat wasn't a problem, even at night.
Just to be sure my buddy and I dug a 2 foot by 1 foot trench that was about 18 inches deep and filled it with coals and covered it back up with soil, we use the same technique when we go winter camping. Gives you a nice warm bed to sleep on

He used it once or twice but for the most part it was too hot out anyway to be of much use.
They were outside the enclosure for 2-3 2-3 hour sessions a day, Chomper was out longer because he is much more used to people and I have no issues letting him roam around on his own and chase critters in the grass/weeds. The shoreside was a much better space for him to spend time at then his enclosure.

Terranaut · 02-27-13, 06:48 PM

Just an fyi for some.
In the wild, snakes leave their enclosures and encounter less than perfect living conditions for short periods of time

**Aaron_S** · 02-27-13, 09:30 PM

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Just an fyi for some.
In the wild, snakes leave their enclosures and encounter less than perfect living conditions for short periods of time

Just free roam your animals then Dan. Leave all their doors open so they can do as they please. They all meet up at some point or another in the wild so who cares anymore?

Terranaut · 02-27-13, 11:20 PM

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Just free roam your animals then Dan. Leave all their doors open so they can do as they please. They all meet up at some point or another in the wild so who cares anymore?

Well I don't think I would go that far but a little wilderness neverhurts if your paying attention and not being dumb about it . Also when I take my snakes outside I din't allow them to interact.

Jeepers · 02-28-13, 12:34 AM

I think this is a situation of two different people that have polar opposite opinions on something and it's pointless to continue on considering this.

I say this because, through my ownership of parrots, I've learned there's the owners that feel it's healthy for the bird to go outside and get some sun(which, in all honesty, it is, they love sunlight) using proper safety precautions, and there are owners that seem to abhor the thought of EVER letting their birds outside, harness or not. These people I do not understand, but I've realized you're best off just leaving them alone and nodding your head because there's just no possible way you're ever going to prove your point with them.

Simple as that. It's just a personal preference, belief, opinion, what have you. I just think it's best to leave it at that.

I understand both viewpoints in the situation of reptiles. Yes, most are shy, flighty, nervous, what have you. Though, if your reptile has a relaxed demeanor, has been accustomed to loud noises, flashes, etc., or anything that would allow them to be suitable to go into public(obviously where people won't flip out and stress the animal, somewhere where people will be ok with it), and you make sure conditions are suitable, take necessary precautions, etc., then I honestly don't see the harm. Once again, though. Personal preference.

murrindindi · 02-28-13, 12:16 PM

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Simple as that. It's just a personal preference, belief, opinion, what have you. I just think it's best to leave it at that.

I understand both viewpoints in the situation of reptiles. Yes, most are shy, flighty, nervous, what have you. Though, if your reptile has a relaxed demeanor, has been accustomed to loud noises, flashes, etc., or anything that would allow them to be suitable to go into public(obviously where people won't flip out and stress the animal, somewhere where people will be ok with it), and you make sure conditions are suitable, take necessary precautions, etc., then I honestly don't see the harm. Once again, though. Personal preference.

Hi, I think you`re forgetting at least one extremely important point; the climate in Canada couldn`t be considered tropical, which is where the Savannah monitor in particular originates from, the poster states the animal was outside it `s enclosure possibly over 9 hours a day, including into the evening when the temps would surely have dropped (even in summer), so no way to thermoregulate effectively at the later time. I don`t consider that to be good husbandry (not in the animal`s best interest).

poison123 · 02-28-13, 12:32 PM

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Hi, I think you`re forgetting at least one extremely important point; the climate in Canada couldn`t be considered tropical, which is where the Savannah monitor in particular originates from, the poster states the animal was outside it `s enclosure possibly over 9 hours a day, including into the evening when the temps would surely have dropped (even in summer), so no way to thermoregulate effectively at the later time. I don`t consider that to be good husbandry (not in the animal`s best interest).

Savannah's are from the tropics? I was always under the impression that they were from grassland areas.