True length of "record" giant pythons.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

That's your excuse? If they don't care why should we? That's the argument for doing it? You giant keepers get crazier by the day.

Let's not give them any more reason to.

StudenttoReptile made a very solid post about similar to this topic in another thread.

I'll just link it here....

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/850798-post69.html

Don't go putting words in my mouth. I know you're not stupid enough to think people don't keep pure lines. Plenty of people, myself included, have pure dwarf and SD animals and they (and myself once my animals are old enough) make sure to continue to produce pure locality/subspecies animals. I'm trying to locate importers to bring in other pure SD/dwarf localities as well.

I'm reading the link, I'll get back to on that. I'm at work now so I don't have to work the holiday so my time is a little broken up to read longer posts.

[smy_749]

Not saying wrong or right. Just disapointing to see people changing things to please them, as opposed to appreciating what nature has to offer. and even then, my beef is with those who ONLY enjoy color morphs, convenient packaging, etc.

[Sherman]

I guess it's different for you folk up in Canada, where you don't know what freedom is I guess.

I can make the analogy for anything, why own xyz when you don't NEED it? I've never asked ball python people to save my ***, I've lobbied and worked hard to show my big snakes in a positive light. I inform everyone I come across that of course their are bad keepers just like their are bad dog owners. Doesn't matter how smart a dog is- they still have killed people have they not?

Fact is, I make sure to let everyone know, and everyone see that every animal I have is behind a locked cage, in a triple locked room, I show the methods I use to ensure mine and others safety. Just become something has the potential to be dangerous doesn't mean it should be outlawed, that logic is the exact same garbage as the idiots who "want to ban guns" just because some criminals use them to commit crimes.

Guess what, ban the snakes, stupid people will still find ways to get them and mess up, that won't change. Ever.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by Sherman

I guess it's different for you folk up in Canada, where you don't know what freedom is I guess.

I can make the analogy for anything, why own xyz when you don't NEED it? I've never asked ball python people to save my ***, I've lobbied and worked hard to show my big snakes in a positive light. I inform everyone I come across that of course their are bad keepers just like their are bad dog owners. Doesn't matter how smart a dog is- they still have killed people have they not?

Fact is, I make sure to let everyone know, and everyone see that every animal I have is behind a locked cage, in a triple locked room, I show the methods I use to ensure mine and others safety. Just become something has the potential to be dangerous doesn't mean it should be outlawed, that logic is the exact same garbage as the idiots who "want to ban guns" just because some criminals use them to commit crimes.

Guess what, ban the snakes, stupid people will still find ways to get them and mess up, that won't change. Ever.

If you think you're free than the education system down there is worse than I thought. The only thing you're 'free' to do down there is get fat and die poor.

You may champion for your big snakes but you and your kind have terrible attitudes and animosity towards the rest of the hobby.

Why should I and people like myself and other non-giant- keeping meatheads ally ourselves with you when you try to hard to alienate us? I hope they not only take all your animals I hope they destroy them. Acting like you all do towards others tells me you have the integrity of a boiled potato.

You and people like you are bottom feeders who use these animals to prove a point that you have no business proving. Pull your head from that dark smelly place and realize that without cooperating and not insulting the rest of us you're never going to win. Know why? Because people like me are going to keep signing whatever I have to to get giants banned. If that means I need to jump through hoops to save my own animals when the time comes so be it. There are more of me than there are of you.

And one more thing? I'd rather live in Canada then be a part of the melting pot of gross obesity you call home.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Sherman

I guess it's different for you folk up in Canada, where you don't know what freedom is I guess.

I can make the analogy for anything, why own xyz when you don't NEED it? I've never asked ball python people to save my ***, I've lobbied and worked hard to show my big snakes in a positive light. I inform everyone I come across that of course their are bad keepers just like their are bad dog owners. Doesn't matter how smart a dog is- they still have killed people have they not?

Fact is, I make sure to let everyone know, and everyone see that every animal I have is behind a locked cage, in a triple locked room, I show the methods I use to ensure mine and others safety. Just become something has the potential to be dangerous doesn't mean it should be outlawed, that logic is the exact same garbage as the idiots who "want to ban guns" just because some criminals use them to commit crimes.

Guess what, ban the snakes, stupid people will still find ways to get them and mess up, that won't change. Ever.

When you can refute actual points I make instead of taking digs at Canadians (truly shows your character and immaturity) then we can continue this discussion.

As it stands now, it's clear your agenda is to continue to not only make giant keepers look bad (Can't you guys send someone smart?)but your entire nation. Congrats you're now stupid for two groups!

[smy_749]

We are all sheep, some of us don't care, others try to look like goats to be different but... your still a sheep in the end despite thinking a retic or burm makes you eligable for a role on sons of anarchy

[red ink]

You boys.... you guys really have a knack for turning a 2 foot hognose and escalating it into a 18 foot retic.

[smy_749]

I love how americans think we are free too, thats good stuff.... as he talks about why he cant have big snakes and eventually any snakes

[Aaron_S]

This is what the latest post reminded me of...

"Freedom"

[guyabano]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

"Freedom"

That pic made me giggle.

[MDT]

Silly Aaron...it's not A-murica.....it's just flat out 'MURICA....
I'm pretty sure you gotta spit after saying it too.


(disclaimer....I'm 'Murican)

[Sherman]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

And yet again Kyle has recruited someone to come and fight his battles for him. I think it's time to send Kyle packing as all he does is bring ******** here to save his pathetic hide.



You sir are a complete moron. Nice dig at Canadians but it obvious that you don't know what you're talking about.

Kyle didn't recruit me to come here, I came here on my own accord, nothing to do with Kyle, he just happened to be here. Here in America I have certain rights, while a lot of you may not believe in freedom anymore here, I do, and I fight to keep it from the oppressive idiots like Obama in office. I'll keep what animals I like, I'll own what guns I like, and I'll do what I want with my life. Don't like it? Tough luck.

Giant keepers are a special breed of ignorant idiots with a healthy mixture of pure assholes. You guys think you are saving our hobby by championing your giants when in reality you are endangering the whole hobby just to keep what you feel entitled to keep. You are all a bunch of arrogant fools that are trying to compensate for your wee willies. Please go back to bigticslittledicks as you're not welcome here. We don't need any ignorant bigots.

Why do you need to keep Boas? There have been deaths to boas. Why hots? Death by hots. All snakes are demonized. You are the ignorant idiot if you actually believe that once giants fall- your snakes won't be soon after. did you not see the original list of snakes proposed and pushed for on the lacey act? One of the highlights for those too inept to read- BALL PYTHONS. Guess what, they went after the most harmless, popular, paraded snake IN THE ENTIRE HOBBY. They've already tried to go after your snakes. Yeah, they go after BPs, found in every petco, petsmart, reptile store, making up 80% of almost every reptile show, owned by children everywhere.

Part of the reason here in America you're permitted to keep your ball pythons is because so many of us giant keepers fought tooth and nail to keep ALL these snakes off the Lacey act. We rallied and we fought for you, we didn't abandon every reptile keeper despite what you may think, we still don't. We know full well that we are the front line, and if we let that fall, the rest of this hobby will be steamrolled.

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

If you think you're free than the education system down there is worse than I thought. The only thing you're 'free' to do down there is get fat and die poor.

You may champion for your big snakes but you and your kind have terrible attitudes and animosity towards the rest of the hobby.

I'm skinny, and I'm far from poor. Sorry I'm not a socialist and if you work hard here it's plenty easy to make something for yourself- although yes a lot of people get fat and sit on welfare, and that's no good.

I don't have a terrible attitude, except when bp keepers try to ram-rod their boring snakes down my throat, saying "get another animal". Guess what, I like my big dogs too, I'm a certified animal trainer. Guess what, I'm an exotics handler who has hands on zoo experience with nearly every species under the sun. I work hard to keep my rights to have these animals and have them safely. There is zero reason to punish the whole because of a few mad keepers who are terrible.

Why should I and people like myself and other non-giant- keeping meatheads ally ourselves with you when you try to hard to alienate us? I hope they not only take all your animals I hope they destroy them. Acting like you all do towards others tells me you have the integrity of a boiled potato.

Do you have children? If so, I hope they are taken and destroyed. Lucky you're not here to my face on my property saying that, you disgusting sack of trash.

I don't alienate most keepers. I'm good friends with nearly every bp/corn/etc breeder in my area. I have problems with the know it all mongoloids on the internet who know nothing yet think they can ram-rod their hate for giants down my throat. I've fought tooth and nail for bps just as much as giants, you fools are too ignorant to realize your bps are in danger of being taken too. So ignorant.

You and people like you are bottom feeders who use these animals to prove a point that you have no business proving. Pull your head from that dark smelly place and realize that without cooperating and not insulting the rest of us you're never going to win. Know why? Because people like me are going to keep signing whatever I have to to get giants banned. If that means I need to jump through hoops to save my own animals when the time comes so be it. There are more of me than there are of you.

And after my giants are banned (I'll still own them). I'll make sure we all just sit down and watch them ban your species too. No worries. I have these animals because I enjoy them, because their interaction with me is different than any other snake besides a king cobra. Go actually own, raise, and interact with a adult female retic, they are a hell of a lot smarter than you give them credit for, THAT is why I keep them- and monitors on the lizard spectrum.

And one more thing? I'd rather live in Canada then be a part of the melting pot of gross obesity you call home.

6'0 155lbs, I hate obesity too, but I'm not obese so who cares. Let others make their own choices.

Originally Posted by smy_749

I love how americans think we are free too, thats good stuff.... as he talks about why he cant have big snakes and eventually any snakes

Lololol.

As for the guy making the tiny **** comments.

I'll put $10,000 cash and we can send pictures to a mutual party, timestamped with our names next to a ruler- that mine is bigger than yours.

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by Sherman

Lololol.

As for the guy making the tiny **** comments.

I'll put $10,000 cash and we can send pictures to a mutual party, timestamped with our names next to a ruler- that mine is bigger than yours.

Are you talking about Red Ink?

[Sherman]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

And yet again Kyle has recruited someone to come and fight his battles for him. I think it's time to send Kyle packing as all he does is bring ******** here to save his pathetic hide.



You sir are a complete moron. Nice dig at Canadians but it obvious that you don't know what you're talking about.

Giant keepers are a special breed of ignorant idiots with a healthy mixture of pure assholes. You guys think you are saving our hobby by championing your giants when in reality you are endangering the whole hobby just to keep what you feel entitled to keep. You are all a bunch of arrogant fools that are trying to compensate for your wee willies. Please go back to bigticslittledicks as you're not welcome here. We don't need any ignorant bigots.

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

Are you talking about Red Ink?

No- to Korbin. I'll put $10,000 down against him.

[marvelfreak]

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