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Old 10-13-04, 02:52 PM   #1
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When we settle this one, I'd like to discuss: who would win in a fight...polar bear or great white shark.

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Old 10-13-04, 02:59 PM   #2
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not only do most apes and chimps hunt in groups but as you may or may not read. SO DO LIONS
Although not all lions are found in groups. Old males wander alone sometimes and young bachelor lions form small groups (usually 2-3). Just more info to add to this convo.
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Really interesting debate. I hope it is a new species.
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Old 10-13-04, 04:26 PM   #4
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oh and the polar vs great white..... theres no doubt that the great white would win. Lets look at te facts a great white can swim far faster has gill and is 20+ feet long with tremendus(sp) jaw pressure. A polar bear may be able to hold its breath a while but it would have trouble evn puncturing the skin let alone kill the shark.
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Old 10-13-04, 04:50 PM   #5
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LOL.. When I posted this news.. I didnt even see this issue coming up Cant believe what this thread turned into ... LOL...
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Old 10-13-04, 04:56 PM   #6
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ya well evolution is inevitable(sp) lol
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Old 10-13-04, 05:55 PM   #7
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oh and the polar vs great white..... theres no doubt that the great white would win. Lets look at te facts a great white can swim far faster has gill and is 20+ feet long with tremendus(sp) jaw pressure. A polar bear may be able to hold its breath a while but it would have trouble evn puncturing the skin let alone kill the shark.
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I agree in general, but the shark's range is temperate and tropical waters. Not sure how feisty he's going to be in the arctic ocean. Plus, I represent the polar bear, and my fighter wants to have the fight on an ice flow. Alien vs Predator anyone? Oh wait...they did that didn't they?

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Old 10-13-04, 06:12 PM   #8
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Hehe.

I found the comment about asking people on the street to be amusing.

Just for fun, someone go out on the street of a large city and ask the following question:

"How many children were killed and eaten by Boa Contrictors in the last decade?"

a) None
b) 23
c) 64
d) 127

I would bet that the answers would be all over the place.

Anyway, regarding lion vs. gorilla, I'm not an expert on either and have no idea what the end result would be. It might be a heck of a fight though.

If you watch how a lion finishes off it's prey, they usually bring the animal down by the neck or muzzle, then clamp down on the muzzle to suffocate the prey if it hasn't already bled out from neck injuries. I think the build and strength of a gorilla would make this a major endeavor for a lion, and one hunting on its own would most likely be starving or sick before attempting to prey on an adult.
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Old 10-13-04, 06:22 PM   #9
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I never said who would win I was just arguing the point a gorilla wouldnt be a 250 pound snack,
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Old 10-13-04, 06:28 PM   #10
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Also hard to say, especially since it's not about a gorilla, but a new species which would be hard to describe its weight, etc... since it is NEW and hasn't been studied before!
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Old 10-13-04, 07:21 PM   #11
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The thing about asking in the streets was
(obviously) out of sarcasm. hehe.

I never thought my first comment would bring so much debate to this thread. After all i didn't even give an opinion, i only remembered a FACT, lions are indeed africa's top predator and the thought that an Ape could prey upon it, is somewhat laughable.
Moving on: Who believes there's a new species out there? (this was the original idea, remember?)
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Old 10-13-04, 07:36 PM   #12
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I dont believe there's a new species based on the sketchy evidence presented in those articles. I wont say it's not possible, but I think it's pretty unlikely.

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Old 10-13-04, 09:48 PM   #13
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yeah I have my doubts too
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Old 10-13-04, 10:35 PM   #14
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Just the other day someone was yakking in another thread about how there couldnt possibly be any undiscovered species left with all our technological glory. Touche' to that!

Yay giant lion eating apes!

Touché to that is right, hehe. I also beg to differ with the person who said that, because _apparently_ there is an estimated...."insert large number here" of undiscovered species left, which kind of makes you appreciate the absolute vastness of the world....

But this ape this really is something =)

PS: I read the last bit of your post as 'Yay giant apple eating lions!' .....Don't ask, haha...
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Old 10-14-04, 12:08 AM   #15
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Anyone ever read "Voyage of the Kon Tiki"?

They discovered a coelacanth when it ended up on the raft with them. And it had been "extinct" for millions of years.
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