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Old 04-10-03, 07:15 PM   #1
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As far as I know, just PA. Our Department of Agriculture is very strict about contagious disease. The store would be fined up to $250,000 if it could be proved the animal was sick when it left the store, and any animals found to be sick or kept in in unsanitary or otherwise unsuitable habitats are confiscated. The store is responsible for the vet care of any animal which was sick at date of purchase but the animal is not to be returned where it can infect other animals in the store. Notices to this effect are required to be posted by the cash registers in all licensed pet stores.

It is illegal to return livestock AT ALL in PA, although some of the large chain stores which have a return policy in other states have gotten waivers on this. These laws were passed so that animals could not pick up a pathogen at someone's home and then be returned to the store where it will infect other animals. We still have a lot of problems with reptiles found in local pet stores, but mites, viral and bacterial infections are very rare in stores hereabouts.

Impulse purchase of a living thing is always wrong, so I don't feel that sorry for folks who impulse buy and then impulse return! Especially when he could have gotten vet care for free if he knew anything about keeping pets in Pennsylvania. All he had to do was read a notice while waiting to pay for the first iizard.
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Old 04-10-03, 07:19 PM   #2
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Wow, after reading this, snakemann must feel like a jerk. He didn't even have to return that lizard. He could of got FREE vet care! lol.
 
Old 04-10-03, 08:04 PM   #3
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Ok, after all this crap I have went back out ot the store and bought him back. But would you buy a TV, computer, etc that was broken, then go pay for repairs(in no way am i trying to compare animals to material items). I know a living thing is different, but if you were to buy a snake from a breeder online, only to find it infested with mites, or sick wouldnt you want your moneys worth? I did research my iguana, I just wanted to clarify what food he eats. He isn't eating now, I'm not sure why, but all day he has veggies and fruits, then I leave in crickets for an hour or so at a time. He is in a 10 gallon, and soon to be a 55, which will be permanent unless his was labeled incorrectly. They said it was a Dwarf Spiny Tailed, but it really resembles a Ctenosaura similis. So i will have pictures soon. I really dont feel a need to go on anymore. Everyone has stated their opinion, and thats fine. But Zoe said, "I am against you owning an iguana(any reptile at that matter)." Even though you have no idea of how my snakes are housed and taken care of.
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Old 04-10-03, 08:10 PM   #4
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Oh, I have an idea. A good one.
It's my opinion that you aren't fit to take care of a living animal, that a live reptile can't depend on you to keep it alive. You proved me right.

And i can't believe you would compare a TV to a lizard! A tv is a hunk of metal, glass and wires! if it's busted, then it just gets taken apart and the parts re-used in other tvs. What happens to a little lizard when it dies? FLUSH! or CHOMP!

Well, I'm happy to hear you bought him back. Do you know what exactly is wrong with him?
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Old 04-10-03, 08:22 PM   #5
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wait.. you took back the ig now? Why not stick with your original idea, getting a Leopard gecko. I can tell ya everything you need to know to keep them and they are super easy to care for. Think about it.
 
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Old 04-10-03, 08:31 PM   #6
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no i didnt take it back. and zoe, do you READ THE FREAKIN POST, i said in no way am i comparing a living animal to a material item, GOD.
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Old 04-10-03, 08:47 PM   #7
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But would you buy a TV, computer, etc that was broken, then go pay for repairs
Sounds like a comparison to me! Surely, you didn't say it out of nowhere with no relevance to the problem at hand? Or do you normally talk about things that don't have to do with anything in the middle of a conversation?
Just because you SAY you weren't comparing, doesn't mean you weren't. THAT was a comparison. You were trying to justify selling a lizard back to a store because it was sick, by comparing it to a broken tv.

By the way, no need to get vulgar or type in caps. If you're so offended by what we're saying, perhaps you should give thought to listening to the advice you ask for.

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Old 04-10-03, 09:26 PM   #8
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I have no idea what a Spiny Tail Iguana goes for now, but I know the Long Tail Lizard you originally gought was about a $1.50 lizard. Were you just feening for another animal so bad that you could wait to get what you wanted?
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Old 04-11-03, 04:35 AM   #9
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you did the right thing snakemann.
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Old 04-11-03, 05:31 AM   #10
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Don't care what else is going on but I wanted to say:

My roomate has a Long Tailed Grass Lizard. It was free. But let me tell you, to her he is one of the most enjoyable pets she has. They are active, cute, easy to care for and fairly cheap to fed even if you do it better than properly like she does.

Also, he was free but we certainly got him the medical care he needs! Just something ya gotta do.

Besides, YOU were free. Does that mean your parents shouldn't dish out the medical costs of labor and health care? *LOL*

Enjoy your Grass lizard.
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Old 04-11-03, 08:22 AM   #11
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[QUOTE But would you buy a TV, computer, etc that was broken, then go pay for repairs(in no way am i trying to compare animals to material items). [/B][/QUOTE]

seems like you left the most important thing out Zoe.
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But that statement is a Paradox Snakemann. You made a direct comparison, then rebutted it by the next statement. That is like saying "Drugs WILL KILL YOU!!!! (but I am in no way saying that drugs are bad for you)"
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Old 04-11-03, 09:05 AM   #13
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Very true BWSmith. This thread is starting to confuse me. Why did BP5000 say

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Old 04-11-03, 09:43 AM   #14
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cause he said he re-baught the lizard. Witch I think is a lie I would say the same thing if ppl were geting on my back because I returned an animal. Everybody will think he got it back so now ppl are gona say good job here is what you need to do and now ppl are wasting there knowlege to some one who dosent care cause they dont even have the animal. Dude you made a mistake the first time why would you set your self up to make another one. Now I know I know you are smater then that I would understand if it was somthing that was hard to come buy and you realy wanted it but you did not want to pay the vet bill and every body jumped so you desided to get it back and pay the vet bill but it is a LTGLwhy would you pay for it twice just to watch it die at home it dont make sence to me until I see a pic with you and the lizard i say it is still in the pet store with no heat $hity water and barly the appropriat food but that is just me.

I will tell you what i think you did. You baught the LTGL you were hapy with it until you saw the igy you wanted the igy but could not aford the whole new set up. You got ride of one of your animals but time was short you did not have time to post it for sale so you braught it back. It was perfect because pet stores are stupid when it comes to reptiles I know I worked in a few no one knows crap other then myself and a few others that were only part time. Any way you only hade it 1or2 days it was a perfict scam you just had to say it was a sick lizard, lets be realastic you do have a ball, boa and a burm if the pet store knows this they would have taken your word on the fackt it was sick. So they gave you your money back and apoligised all is good you got 1.50$ or 5.00$ back and now you have a empty cage.

I am shour the ppl here thaught of that but never thaught you would do that or just never thaught that a person would sink that low man you MAY be abel to care for what you own but dude you have reptiles for all the wrong reasons. To show off for braging rights, $$$ any of these reasons are the wrong ones and there are plenty more I am just to upset to think of any more depresing stuff. any way I hope that ppl dont think i was to harsh but it needed to be said and to all the breeders on ssnakess plz dont sell to snakeman87 for a few years let him learn from this mistake first. I was 14-17 b4 and I mad all the same mistakes as you I was smater thow I keped my mouth shut and my ears open and I learned man my very first snake died cause I over fed it and the cage was to cold I never brodcasted it on a public forum now I can cause i have learned a bunch of cool stuff since then I bet you there is a bunch of bad things about these ppl but they are smart they keep there mouth shut and ears open and they never stop learning. al was be carefule what you post and alwas think of what ppl are gona say to you after. any way I need to go and cool down I hope you get the help needed....
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Old 04-11-03, 12:37 PM   #15
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I was not trying to compare material items to animals, I was just using a comparison. I would really like to end this, cause im not so sure about you but im sure as hell i know i didnt buy a computer to be yelled and critisized by total strangers.
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